Fun_in_my_z Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share #109 Posted February 10, 2004 i think it was maxwell but im not evan positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted February 10, 2004 Share #110 Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by TomoHawk They actually first flew their plane in Dayton, Ohio.I don't think this is true. They certainly went to Kitty Hawk because of the winds. In fact, they went there several years in a row flying gliders in 1901 and 1902. As witnessed by the recent re-enactment failure, the 1903 flyer needed a sustained airspeed of about 15mph to fly. A steady headwind was absolutely required for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrush Posted February 10, 2004 Share #111 Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by billramsey2002 i think it was maxwell but im not evan positive I think that's correct. But we all know the first REAL car was the 240Z! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Kid Posted February 10, 2004 Share #112 Posted February 10, 2004 I remember doing a project on this at school at one stage, did the plane actually clear the ground in Dayton? I thought they moved elsewhere because it wouldnt get off the ground totally at their first location?On the car, do you mean the first one powered by an internal combustion engine or a steam engine?The first automobile (and origin of the word) was sometime in the 14th century, and it was a cart powered by four slaves moving capstans.Then you had the dutch using windmill powered land vehicles in the 16th century.Evans was the first to apply for a patent, but I dont think he was the first to try the idea of a steam powered car, I think that honour goes to Captain Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot in 1769. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted February 10, 2004 Share #113 Posted February 10, 2004 Hi Mike- The Wright Flyer (powered, not glider) actually did fly in Dayton, and that's where they get the 120-foot distance, barely off the ground,as Z Kid said, so they went to Kitty Hawk to make a real 'flight.' Oh- Jurgon AUTO invented the AUTO-mobile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fun_in_my_z Posted February 10, 2004 Author Share #114 Posted February 10, 2004 hey your right the 240 was the first real car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrush Posted February 10, 2004 Share #115 Posted February 10, 2004 Oh- Jurgon AUTO invented the AUTO-mobile Is that true? I thought AUTO was a prefix for something that wasn't done manually. Or is that where the prefix came from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted February 10, 2004 Share #116 Posted February 10, 2004 There's no 'auto' in latin or any other language I know, so I think it's a little of both, or the one invented the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted February 10, 2004 Share #117 Posted February 10, 2004 Originally posted by TomoHawk The Wright Flyer (powered, not glider) actually did fly in Dayton, and that's where they get the 120-foot distance, barely off the ground,as Z Kid said, so they went to Kitty Hawk to make a real 'flight.' Do you have any references for this information?I've walked along the path where the original flights were made. They've got granite markers for each of the 4 flights made on Dec 17, 1903. The first flight was indeed 120 feet. The 2nd and 3rd were around 200 feet. The 4th and final flight of the day was 852 feet.http://www.nasm.edu/nasm/aero/aircraft/wright03.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z Kid Posted February 10, 2004 Share #118 Posted February 10, 2004 Incidentally while we are on useless flying facts, the US replica/rebuilt original wright flyer is put together all arse up, they built an exact copy and tried to fly it here, turns out all your controls on the rebuild are on upside down, scared the $^!# out of the poor guy trying to fly it here. Found it out looking back at original photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomoHawk Posted February 10, 2004 Share #119 Posted February 10, 2004 The information came from documentaries on the History Channel, including the original Wright Flyer and the recent replicas. Also from History books and hostorical perfessors I've had."Two wrongs don't make a right, but two Wrights can make an airplane." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerRob Posted February 10, 2004 Share #120 Posted February 10, 2004 auto- \Au"to-\ An abbrev. of automobile, used as a prefix with the meaning of self-moving, self-propelling; as, an autocar, an autocarriage, an autotruck, etc., an automobile car, carriage, truck, etc.Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. auto- \Au"to-\ [Gr. ? self.] A combining form, with the meaning of self, one's self, one's own, itself, its own.Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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