Im doing absolutly everything on my own, no shop work. Although i am getting help from some pro's. I am doing the bodywork as we speak, now all i need to do is get my hands on a welder and ill be set. I wont be adding a L28ET for a while.

Originally posted by v12horse

......... and no matter what people say, no matter how you mod it, your car IS a Black Pearl.

-Ben

Of course he can do whatever he wants to his car. Don't think anyone said he couldn't , or shouldn't unless I missed something.

BUT, I 100% disagree with your statement quoted above. If it is modded in anyway, it is no longer an original BP. It WAS a BP, and may at some point, be restored to be one again. Just like other variations of S30, there are specific criteria to be met to be considered a BP

BTW AFAIK, the serial numbers of Black Pearl edition cars are not traceable.

Originally posted by Bambikiller240 BTW AFAIK, the serial numbers of Black Pearl edition cars are not traceable.

So if I were to take my 78, strip it down, paint it black, get the stripe kit and other accesories and a new paint code sticker, no one would be able to tell me that its not a BPE?:devious:

Originally posted by sblake01

So if I were to take my 78, strip it down, paint it black, get the stripe kit and other accesories and a new paint code sticker, no one would be able to tell me that its not a BPE?:devious:

That's what you would call a "Clone". Seen it done with many a muscle cars, Yenkos and the such. If as Carl says VIN's aren't tracable to the authenticity/originality of a special edition car, then your only proof would be original paperwork, sales records and window stickers.

Vicky

Originally posted by sblake01

So if I were to take my 78, strip it down, paint it black, get the stripe kit and other accesories and a new paint code sticker, no one would be able to tell me that its not a BPE?:devious:

That is my recollection of a previous discussioin regarding these cars on the IZCC mail list. "I think" that is what Carl Beck indicated. If I am recalling 100% correct, it was suggested (by various participants) that the only way to be certain if a car was in fact a Factory Black Pearl, was if the paint type and color was Factory OEM "everywhere", all accessory items were present and verifiable as original OEM.

No painted pinstripes, 280zx-t engines, aftermarket mirrors, sunshades, etc. Pity that Nissan didn't keep better track of stuff like this.

Here is a little info from Zhome.com

INTRODUCTION:

The 1978 Black Pearl Edition 280Z was the first black Z Car Produced. It was actually a test market device to determin if the color black should be added to the Z Car model line colors. It was so successful that in 1979 with the introduction of the 280ZX Datsun featured their all Black 280ZX's in their "Black Gold" ad.'s.

We know what at least one Black Pearl Edition with the "SPORTS APPEARANCE PACKAGE" was sent to each Authorized Datsun Dealer in 1978, with the larger volume Dealers receiving more than one. Thus at least 850 Black Pearl Editions with the SAP were produced and most likely something closer to 1200 or 1500 of them. We have no offical production figures for the number of cars which received only the Black Pearl Metalic Paint (but not, the Sports Appearance Package.).

Man those Black Peral's Look Nice :classic:

Originally posted by Zrush

That's what you would call a "Clone". Seen it done with many a muscle cars, Yenkos and the such. If as Carl says VIN's aren't tracable to the authenticity/originality of a special edition car, then your only proof would be original paperwork, sales records and window stickers.

Vicky

Well, I meant that hypothetically, I wouldn't really do it because I wouldn't be happy with it.

Yes, you can tell by the code on the radiator, true black pearl=638.

I Emailed NISMO a couple days ago....no reply.....damnit, where can i get a stripe kit?!?!

Try Chloe at www.midwestz.com If it is available, she can get it.

Originally posted by Datsun-Fever

I Emailed NISMO a couple days ago....no reply.....damnit, where can i get a stripe kit?!?!

They sometimes take a while to answer. It might be better if you give them a call.

Hello Dastun-Fever and everyone!

A couple of things have been discussed that I wish to comment on. Most everyone has encouraged me to restore my car, but everyone also says I can do whatever I want - it's my car. I would think, though, that if one could afford to build a turbo engine, one could also refinish the car to original specs. The initial price indicates to me that money, no matter which way you go, is going to be spent in great quantities. Another option is to just clean it up and sell it. I would think that the car could be worth many times your original price. The best advice I always hear is: "If you want a turbo car, then buy a turbo car. Don't trash an otherwise unique car to make something that never was".

I thought the radiator number reference was interesting. What other features of a BP are unique?

My suggestion on the stripe kit is that if you happen to find one, keep it safe and dry. Pin stripe the paint job so that you can't tell and it will last longer and look better. I wouldn't diss you for it!

Originally posted by 26th-Z

What other features of a BP are unique?

Check the attachment in my post on page one of this thread.