Adj. T-C rods with stock control arms

[panchovisa]

I just posted some pictures in my gallery of home made adjustable, solid (no rubber/urethane), tension/compression rods for use with stock lower control arms.

These can be duplicated by anyone with time to source the British (MOWOG) "hip-jpoints".

This modification was standard practice by the CP racers of the 70's. It allows adjustment of caster on lowered cars without trying to tweak camber plates to a position they were not intended to go.

You will of course be eliminating rubber/urethane donuts at chassis so the ride will be harsher. But the caster and toe-out will not change under heavy braking/hard cornering which is a big plus.

[TomoHawk]

that sounds nice, but what can we do for the people who just like the stock setup for classic cruising? there's really no need for superb cornering when you just like to drive casually.

[panchovisa]

If you like your car the way it is than just ignore this thread and cruise in comfort.

[TomoHawk]

Not a good idea, man.

Especially since there is a great need for original-style T/C rods.

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by TomoHawk

Not a good idea, man.

Especially since there is a great need for original-style T/C rods.

Great need? Pffftt! There are two of them on every parts car and they're laying on the ground at most Nissan pick N pull yards.

It's a good idea for those who want to improve the handling of their car.

For those that don't want to do this , stick with what ya got and let us be.

[Brett240]

Great need? Pffftt! There are two of them on every parts car and they're laying on the ground at most Nissan pick N pull yards.

Amen.

[2ManyZs]

Since this is the Racing Forum, it has nothing to do with street cars anyways, unless someone just has to have it.

If you find out which cars these can be sourced for, I've got a friend that is into restoring old Triumph's that might have a source for these, hopefully new ones.

Who needs to go to a JY, I've got at least a dozen T/C rods either in boxes or on parts cars....:cross-eye

[Bambikiller240]

Originally posted by 2ManyZs

might have a source for these, hopefully new ones.

Who needs to go to a JY, I've got at least a dozen T/C rods either in boxes or on parts cars....:cross-eye

Agreed! I have two spare sets for sure and there's probably another set stuffed way back in a corner somewhere also.

[260DET]

Those joints are sort of like off some steering racks too. Good idea.

What I would really like is a sealed ball type joint that could be used for the front inner control arm pivot. Something like a rod end that has similar seals to those on tie rod ends. The threaded part of the rod end could be used to adjust camber.

I'm not convinced that the urethane ones will go the distance because urethane apparently has a very poor performance in shear.

[panchovisa]

2manyZ's,

I'm going from memory, but I believe the joint is from a TR6 steering set-up. The part is quite similar to our inner tie-rod end, except that it has a male threaded stud on joint.

If somebody knows some Triumph people maybe one of them can give the part an identdity (model, year, etc.)

[2ManyZs]

I'll have to check with him and find out if these are still available new and where to get them.

It's good they are from a TR-6, cuz that's what he specializes in...

[panchovisa]

260DET,

You can find spherical bearings (more like bushings, similar to rod ends (without the threaded post), except that they are meant to mount in a bore, like where urethane bushings are used on many lower control arms for Z's) on most any bearing web site. NMB has all kinds.

My control arm has spherical bearings. Other people have cut off inner portion of the control arm, welded in square bar stock, and tapped it to accept spherical rod ends.