toyota engine compatability

[scrote]

hi all,

am new to this forum and looking for a nice 240z at the momment and was wondering if anyone has any details about toyota engine transplants in 240z.

was thinking of using a 1jz or a 1uz as i like these engines and am familiar with the toyota range.

have always been a celica nut(ta22) and have a nice little turbo one but am after a turbo six or bigger.

can anyone help??

[lordbiotree]

Welcome!

I personally have never seen any Toyota engine in a Z. You might want to try http://www.hybridz.org/

Over here we are dedicated to the first gen Z. there are guys on the board who have done engine swaps. Mainly Nissan power. We do have chevy guys on the board.

I wont swap anything that's not Nissan power. As for the Celica...well there nothing like a 240,260,280 Z!

Feel free look around. Use the search feature. See what you can find.

[hls30.com]

AutoSpeed had a 240Z that had a Toyota engine in it-owned by a Natinal Soccer player if my memory is right, hold on a minute, Here is text of the article

Issue: 147 Section: Feature Cars 11 September, 2001

Zed Sacrilege

Take one of Nissan's most classic of sportscars - and stuff it with a Toyota heart!?

Why not? That's the question that Michael Galluzzo often bounces back at people who query his move to drop a Toyota turbo engine into his precious Datsun 240Z. For sure, the Zed purists cannot stand the thought of such an act.

But - as you'll read - there is reason behind this 'madness'.

First of all, the name Michael Galluzzo might ring a bell with Australian soccer fans - he plays for Sydney's Leichhardt Tigers. Michael - together with his father - bought this 1969 Zed (one of the early-bird ones) with the full intention of making it something special. They began their build-up by rejuvenating the standard body (which involved removing quite a lot of rust), soon followed by a big splash of Ferrari Red. The paint quality is truly immaculate, despite being a backyard job by a mate. (More than a few cartons of refreshment must have gone his way, we reckon!).

With the look-like-new Zed hoofing around under the power of the Weber'd, extractor'd and exhausted (literally) L-series six, Michael got the urge to give it some late-model grunt. The engine that he most dearly wanted to slot into the front was, of course, the Godzilla RB26DETT engine - but these are rare and ultra-expensive. W-a-y expensive by the time you get the ECU and everything that's needed to get it up and firing.

After discussion with Vince Rigoli, Michael was soon swayed to go the Toyota 7M-GTE (Supra turbo) six - so this Toyota-into-Nissan 'travesty' is Vince's fault! Vince pointed out that the 7M-GTE has 3-litres capacity (versus the 2.6-litre RB26DETT) and he'd previously seen some ripper outputs from them. You can't hold these things against it - even if it is a Toyota motor!

Vince sourced a Japanese-import 7M-GTE and - as a pre-fitting precaution - cracked it open for inspection. Everything looked good, so it was all sealed up again with a new cam belt. Next came the 240Z transplant. "It was pretty easy," tells an unashamed Vince, "we just made new engine mounts and installed a 3-core radiator with twin thermo fans."

Adding a little more the Toyota motor's factory zest is now a new O2 Rush filter tucked in behind the grille and an exhaust system that slashed away the bulk of restriction. This is a custom jobbie, with 3-inch mandrel plumbing with just a polished rear muffler serving to reduce noise.

Purchased as just a bare engine and 'box, there was the important task of sourcing an intercooler. No point in just slipping in a stocker, Mood Motorsport whipped up the biggest darn 'cooler they could nestle in front of the radiator (plus the beautiful mandrel plumbing to boot). Needless to say, an intercooler of this size does a sik job of lowering intake air temps - especially given that the standard wastegate setting of 7-8 psi is all that's received from the standard CT26 turbo. Oh, and - before we forget - Where's Wally kinda people might also spot the polished adjustable blow-off valve.

Vince Rigoli is a big believer in EMS programmable management, which is why Michael's Zed carries one such device. Vince configured the management system to run with a MAP sensor (reducing intake restriction), the standard injectors and ignition. Bosch provides the high-pressure fuel delivery required in an EFI application. Vince performed all mapping.

Instead of stuffing around with bell housing adapters trying to fit a Nissan gearbox, everyone thought it'd be wisest to simply stick with the 5-speed gearbox that came delivered hanging off the back of the motor. This went into the Zed with custom mounts and a Toyota slave cylinder (as part of the hydraulic clutch actuation system). A high-performance clutch went in at the same time - a brass button sprung centre item.

Connecting the output shaft of the gearbox is a custom tailshaft, which feeds into a 3.9:1 diff sourced from a later 260Z. But the wheels are where it all happens. On the standard wastegate setting and with everyday premium unleaded flowing through the injectors, this car has seen an easy 203kW at the wheels on a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Of course, that's not supercar stuff, but it's more than you'll get from - say - a HSV Clubsport R8. Throw this level of grunt in a relatively lightweight 240Z (24 oz?) and you can understand why everyone's predicting high 12-second quarter mile performance. Certainly, this could be achieved by bumping up the boost (assuming there's enough traction).

Try to imagine the amount of IRS squat there would be with the standard suspension in place. This is why Michael's made revisions with Koni shocks and lowered Lovells springs. A set of aftermarket swaybars had already gone on prior to purchase. Braking, too, has been improved to help accommodate the go of the 7MGTE. The front-end is equipped with Hilux discs and calipers with Endless pads, while - for now - the rear remains stock drum-spec.

The interior has been the last area to receive Michael's attention. A pair of Sparco Road fixed-back seats holds the front passengers like a bear, plus there's a Momo wheel, gear knob and pedals. The black carpets have all been redone and any 'daggy' areas have been thoroughly tidied up. Amazingly, the original dash pad remains crack-free. You can't help but get a feeling of nostalgic Targa-style racing when you step aboard.

Externally, the car rides on 16-inch five-spokers wearing 225/50 tyres. Michael's not totally sure what brand they are, but they were bought upon the recommendation of "the coach". They weren't cheap, though, at around $600 each (maybe this was the coach's payback after a lack-lustre game?!). Thankfully, the 240Z's beautiful flowing bodylines remain standard with the exception of GTHO-style external mirrors and a fibreglass front spoiler. The aforementioned paint job gives the car a distinctly Italian exotic appearance, while the ORGAZM number plates also aren't likely to go unnoticed...

Only being used for weekend cruises - when Michael's not tied up with soccer - it stands to reason that the Zed doesn't rack up too many miles. Because of this, Michael is now keen on selling the car (any enquiries through michael@autospeed.com). Certainly, it's just the thing to stand out in - and it could stand out a whole lot more with a few more psi boost stuck through 'er!

Will

[zed240au]

hi if you get back issues of zoom magazine (few years back now would have issues at home if you cant find it ) they did a build up on a 240z with toyota 6 cyl turbo build over a number of issues covered most of the problems was a nice fit went well there main reason was the cost of the nissan rb26 or rb25 motors compared to the dirt cheap toyota supra motors

have seen since car was bought by a member here and shipped to england

Mick

[scrote]

well have deicided i want to try and fit a 1UZ-FE into a 240z. as of the zoom article im not that interested in the 7mgte as its an older heavier engine and after owning a 1jz cressida i would go 1jz over 7m anyday.

so has anyone fitted a 1UZ-FE into a 240z.

if not does anyone have the measurements of the engine bay so i can try and work out if it will fit.

thanks all.

[260Z-1JZm]

I know of a 260z 2seat in toowoomba Qld. that is being fitted with the nissan V8 and twin turbos.

But have not heard of the toyota V8 in any.

As far as engine bay size I had an XE falcon with a 351, and have a 260Z 2+2.

The datsun engine bay is 25mm widder than the falcon measured between suspension towers and the same from radiator to fire wall.

There is also a celica in W.A. with a 1UZ so they cant be too big for a zed

[CoastGuardZ]

Toyota Engines belong in Toyotas.

If you want a toyota six, why not buy an older Supra?

My VERY narrow minded opinion.

Nate

[Mr Camouflage]

Nooooooo, dont do it to a 240Z. Use a 260Z.

Theres a guy in Perth putting a 1UZ on a 240C, but thats a different story.

But if you must....

I've been asked this question before, so one day I measured my empty engine bay and jotted the measuremets down on the back of a piece of card.

here they are

[JZM]

I have done a few.6MGE,7MGE and the 7MGET and also the 2JZ twin turbo.

My pesonal favorite is the 7MGET conversion.however please keep in mind that you will be destroying a great car and the toyota six has a very weak lower end.our shop rebuilds these and you can also get them in jap crate form still.p/m me with Qs and I'll see if I can help.you know you can also buy a more powerful and reliable nissan engine. that will fit just fine.And if I can put a jag V12 in a 240Z engine compartment I think your choice of a toyota will fit just fine.

JZM

[scrote]

i do not know too much about nissan engines but i very much doubt i could get a lighter weight more reliable engine than the 1uz. these things are bulletproof.

[alg]

I'm a huge Z and L-series fan, but I have to say that a toyota engine will outlast a nissan engine any day of the week and still make Big HP reliably. The only Nissan engines that compare are the Rb's, and they way more expensive depending on which engine.

No offence to anyone.

Alex

[philUK]

I think my ears are burning!

I own the 1jz engined car, which was part of a set of Zoom articles in OZ.

BLKMGK has a set of scans of the original articles at http://www.blkmgk.com/Development/TestWEB.nsf It has also been in a couple of articles here in the UK (and even a calender) which I have scans of if anyone is brave enough to host them!

I think the car is great, everything I hoped it would be. I've also been on a few trackdays to make the most out of it.

I had it tuned to make 328 bhp at the hubs at 14 psi, and could take it further if I ever felt the need to. see the thor racing dynopack dyno plot in my gallery

If you have any specific questions - just ask!