P-plate restrictions discussed

[Alfadog]

Good onya Gav.

That reminds me - it was funny when I did mine because there was this older guy (about 30, most of us were near 20) who wore sunnies the entire time and just thought he was all that (e.g. while waiting in line, he would do a burnout in his - you guessed it - Holden). In EVERY event, he either spun out, lost control or didn't listen well enough to know what to do. By the end of the day he wasn't so smug.

[Brett240]

im not on my P's so it doesnt really concern me but....

The able age to obtain a licence should NOT be raised, how many 17 year olds need their licence for their Jobs? i did, and i would have been pissed if i was an apprentice electician/ plumber etc at 16 an told i would have to wait until my fourth year before i could drive. It would be unacceptable.

While a defensive/advanced driver school would be no doubt effective in teaching younger drivers to handle themselves in dangerous situations try convincing your state gov to set up the infrastructure to handle the volumes of new drivers...aint gonna happen.

Limiting drivers to low power cars? might help a little...(NSW currently has no restrictions on this)if it can be policed effectivley.

(who's to know that innocent little Z is packing a 5.7 litre V8? or that Rx7 has a turbo the size of an aircraft prop underneath??)

Curviews? i got into just as much trouble on my P's at 3 in the arvo as i did at 3 in the morning. my one and only prang was in the afternoon while being a dickhead racing a mate ( and i was by myself).

Limiting the amount of passengers? i know i tended to "show off" a little more with passengers so thats a consideration, again if t can be effectivly policed. and will it really make a difference?

At the end of the day though your not going to stop teenage bravado, they all have that spirit. its just over the last century they now have have access to vehicles that do more damage when they come adrift. If we are going to sanitize life so much as to keep applying harsher and harsher rules/penalties we might as well trade in our Z's for Corolla's now (or better yet start catching the train!)

hey im all for cutting the road toll down, who isnt. but if new regs like the above come into effect they will have little impact except to fatten up the state gov's pockets.

my 2 cents

[Alfadog]

Limiting drivers to low power cars? might help a little...(NSW currently has no restrictions on this)if it can be policed effectivley.

(who's to know that innocent little Z is packing a 5.7 litre V8? or that Rx7 has a turbo the size of an aircraft prop underneath??)

The thing is, your V8 Z or blown RX still has to be registered and the conversion engineered. I think that's the beauty of the plan - no registered car can get past.

Limiting the amount of passengers? i know i tended to "show off" a little more with passengers so thats a consideration, again if t can be effectivly policed. and will it really make a difference?

It also kinda contradicts the governments push for carpooling. I dont think it's an effective, enforceable or consistent method.

At the end of the day though your not going to stop teenage bravado, they all have that spirit. its just over the last century they now have have access to vehicles that do more damage when they come adrift. If we are going to sanitize life so much as to keep applying harsher and harsher rules/penalties we might as well trade in our Z's for Corolla's now (or better yet start catching the train!)

Well seriously, we dont have to live in one extreme or the other. There is a happy medium. We can live with Z's AND safe driving, surely?

Easier said than done eh?

[Gav240z]

I think the best suggestion so far is to limit your passenger to 1 person. That way you don't have 3 people or 4 people encouraging you to do something silly. How much easier is it to say no to 1 mate than 3 or 4? I know it's much easier without the pressure of more than 1 person.

I think defensive driving should be part of the plan and you might pass your road test and your written tests but 1 day at driver ed would be of benefit to everyone.

Surely with the revenue generated by speeding cameras the government could implement this after all isn't the revenue from this meant to go towards road safety anyway.

For the record I'm not on my P's either but I do recall having a 2+2 and 3 mates in the car and since i was the first with my licence I was always under pressure to do silly things here and there.

A limit on a P - Plate drivers car is also a good idea and we have this rule in Victoria. However how many cops know what cars out there have what power? I know alot of police are ignorant when it comes to cars sometimes this works in our favour but they should also be educated to know what to look for.

-Gav