Carl, if I had needed your permission, I would have asked for it.

You don't need permisson, but it is narrow-minded people who will not allow a discussion (jumping into it 8 pages after it started) and act like a spoiled "I'm gonna tell the teacher" brat that wizz me off. If you seek to limit the partisipation of any of us, you are not needed or wanted in this discussion! We were doing just fine without you!

I'm sure that many of you have heard this one: George Bush was born on homeplate but thinks he hit a home run.

He thinks 51% of the vote is a mandate too!

One thing to remember here, actions may be dictated, but thoughts cannot be.

Am I the only one who has made what I thought was a completely thought out decision only to find out later that I did not have enough information to make the decision?

Please explain where there is more of an opportunity to learn than in a mistake-even when you didn't know you made one.

Will

Carl, I guess you'll have to stay pissed. Sorry.

That's OK, at least everyone now knows that you have nothing to contribute, except to attempt to limit the rest of us from having a discussion. After all, you know what is best for us. :stupid:

Bueler, Bueler,, Bueler...Bueler.....

Will

carl, thanks for the defense.

oh no bryan you reported me?!?! please no, im shaking in my boots! i will not reply to this thread anymore because i have much better things to be doing than trying to convince anyone that this beautiful country is beng destroyed by those in power and if thats what you want, then fine.

If in a few years the Iraqi people democraticly elect a government embracing the radical Islamic doctrine of Iran, how will every pro war hawk rationalized they G.I. death toll, and hundreds of billions of borrowed dollars then? My guess is that they will all say they were against the whole thing to begin with.

Hell, they might even elect Bin Ladin president! What irony.

That might require a third Gulf War to officially make Iraq the 51st state!!!! :)

I was telling my neighbor the there was a couple datsun sites that take hate

Bush speech to new heights lately now that it is over.

After we talked about the election a bit he asked do you think anybodys mind will get changed. I laughed and said heck no.

I was thinking I guess I have hated the far left for a long time. I think as much as they hate Bush.

I also have no use for hollywood types and musicans trying to inflict their will

on others. A lot of people I think like me just want them to make movies and music and leave us alone.

The rest of the dems whom I know many I have no problem with and get along fine.

Also recently it got to a new low when one of the area grade school kids came home and said Mom I am supposed to tell you to vote for John Kerry.

Well the crap hit the fan. What ever ended up happening to the teacher I do not know if anything really.

College and High school we already know it is there. But Grade school?

What one of the radio talk shows pointed out. What do you think would have happened if a kid came home an said George Bush. OMG. It would have been Tom Brokaw, Katie Couric, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather etc. The October suprise all over. That is why many have been complaining about the biased media trying to influence a National Election. As it turned out it did not matter but could have.

Later.

Greyghost, I remember when the media was leftist (I'm old enough). Now that the country has turned the other way (starting about the time of R.R.) the media is firmly in the far right camp. The newspapers and radio stations are all owned by a few, which require the assistence of the powers that be to skirt anti-trust rulings. They know wich side butter their bread. The rest of the media is controlled by the Christian colelition which also knows how to by-pass the seperation of church and state by delivering the votes.

Sorry buddy, but your premise died a long time ago. By the way, rock stars and movie stars are not the media. Their every move is covered BY THE MEDIA, if that is what People Magazine/Rollin Stone is.

Steve, you will notice in my posts that I have not slammed the honorable G.W.Bush, only the policies of the majority controlled country we live in.