bob m Posted October 31, 2004 Share #1 Posted October 31, 2004 I am rebuilding an E31 head with larger valves, etc. I am wondering if it is possible to use a later model cam and drill oil passages in the head. Anyone had any experience?Thanks Bob M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted October 31, 2004 Share #2 Posted October 31, 2004 I have no experrience with doing this, but I do know that it can be & has been done by many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Posted November 1, 2004 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2004 I think all you need to do remove the oil spray bar and block the passages. MSA sells the blocking plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Beaut Posted November 1, 2004 Share #4 Posted November 1, 2004 Are there any advantages to doing this? I've got an E88 I'm prepping and need to get a new spray bar and cam anyway.Cheers,Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav240z Posted November 1, 2004 Share #5 Posted November 1, 2004 You should make sure when you seal off the original oil holes they are pressure tight to keep oil pressure. I'm not 100% sure about having to drill holes as I was going to have to go the other way back to an oiler bar to fit a camshaft i picked up but changed my mind. There is not really a major advantage however to me it seems like a more efficient way of oiling everything up top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinfish Posted November 1, 2004 Share #6 Posted November 1, 2004 If you are using the E31 head and mating to an original 2400 cc block you have a potential interference problem if exhaust valves are increased from the stock 33 mm dia to the later engine 35 mm dia. Adding a high lift cam aggravates the problem. Can be made compatible by notching the contact point on the rim of the block. Not sure what happens with the larger intake valves?I upgraded my 2400 cc engine with MSA Schneider cam kit which is designed with internal oiling via holes in the cam lobes. Only mod required is to trash the external oil manifold and cover the two supply holes for same with block off plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chino 240Z Posted November 1, 2004 Share #7 Posted November 1, 2004 Last month I replaced the oiler bar with another, since the previous one had the end (#6) cyl. almost apart. I guess this is common for the #6 oiler section to fall off. What is the thinking of removing the bar and blocking, taking away oilling from the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted November 1, 2004 Share #8 Posted November 1, 2004 Craig:In addition to removing the spray bar, you must replace the current camshaft with one that provides for internal oiling. (i.e. oil is pumped into the camshaft and each cam lobe has a tiny hole in it where oil under pressure gets squirted out to lube the rocker arms and everything else up in there.Advantage is that there is no longer a spray bar to crack and fall apart, robbing part of the cylinder head of life saving oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chino 240Z Posted November 1, 2004 Share #9 Posted November 1, 2004 Okay, once replacing the cam, is there enough oil pressure upstairs to run both oiling methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambikiller240 Posted November 1, 2004 Share #10 Posted November 1, 2004 Generally, No. You must block off the oiler tube supply holes to maintain acceptable oil pressure.(FWIW, all modern cars that I am aware of use the internal oiling camshafts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chino 240Z Posted November 1, 2004 Share #11 Posted November 1, 2004 I thought so, and I would think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspillman Posted November 1, 2004 Share #12 Posted November 1, 2004 I've run with both oiling systems for 3 years now in race enviroment "ITS SCCA" No problems with stock oil pump, turbo robs HP,.....180+ crank HP....YMMV,David Spillman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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