To our British and French members

[ZwolleY]

I think that the USA is going to be left in the dust of other advancing nations and blocks of nations. It actually is starting now with greater Europe, excepting Great Britain, China and India advancing economically and socially much faster than the USA. (Not difficult to advance on something going backward!). I heard one wonk say two days ago that in 20 years the world will be looking to China as the economic powerhouse of the world. Pity the US. Seems that our days as a progressive nation and as a symbol of freedom are numbered. Don't get me wrong. I love my country but hate the direction things are going.

[instigator]

We forget we probably more so joined the war

so that WE would not be speaking german. In other words keeping any conflict off our own soil.

Get your facts straight. We joined that war because the Japanese bomb the sh*t out of Pearl Harbor! It was a personal attack on us that lead to US involvement.

It was an unpopular decision for most here as we had other problems at the time.

Again, the facts. History tells us that the decision to enter WWII was NOT unpopular. Yes there was a draft, but many people, including most of my great-uncles, joined up voluntarily out of patriotism and pride. In fact my grandfather was upset to learn he was not alowed to join because of his machinist skills.

I do not know honestly what side I would have taken at the time.

That's a very "liberal" comment.

[instigator]

I think that the USA is going to be left in the dust of other advancing nations and blocks of nations.

I'll agree with you on that note. We spend way too much time messing around in other nations business sometimes. We have a bunch Liberals in this country that think they have to please everyone all the time. They also think that a welfare state is the quickest and easiest way to full government control of the population.

To all the NAACP babies and Minority Rights Activists: Tell your constituents to get off their arse and make something of themselves. Life is not about handouts and free rides. You are what you make of yourself. And we're currently on the fast road to making the US a country of fat, lazy, worthless, uneducated slobs.

(Wow, did I really say all that?)

[240znz]

Get your facts straight. We joined that war because the Japanese bomb the sh*t out of Pearl Harbor! It was a personal attack on us that lead to US involvement.

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Get YOUR facts straight!

The USA was only at war with Japan after Pearl Harbour. She did not declare war against Germany at the same time as Germany did not attack her. FACT!

The US didn't enter the war against the Nazi's until a US passenger liner was sunk by German U boats and forced the US into the war in Europe. FACT!

Hilter's biggest single mistake was not envading Britain. We have the Russians to thank for that as the Russian offensive took longer than Hitler had figured. Over 1 million Russians gave there lives. FACT!

The Battle of Britain was won by the British with mainly Polish, Australian and New Zealand pilots. Most of the british pilots had already fallen.

New Zealand lost the most men per population of any country during WWII. FACT!

If you want to look at why this world is a messed up place then just look at the so called "legal" occupation of Palistine. FACT!

I too am very concerned at how the so called non-western countries view us.

War is crap which ever way you look at it.

[e_racer1999]

If you want to look at why this world is a messed up place then just look at the so called "legal" occupation of Palistine. FACT!

I too am very concerned at how the so called non-western countries view us.

War is crap which ever way you look at it.

word the **** up

[instigator]

Get your facts straight. We joined that war because the Japanese bomb the sh*t out of Pearl Harbor! It was a personal attack on us that lead to US involvement.

Get YOUR facts straight!

The USA was only at war with Japan after Pearl Harbour. She did not declare war against Germany at the same time as Germany did not attack her. FACT!

The US didn't enter the war against the Nazi's until a US passenger liner was sunk by German U boats and forced the US into the war in Europe. FACT!

If you look....I never did mention anything about the US' involvement with Germany. I know my facts. I live in this country and I remember my history class! The US was in the Pacific war front for quite awhile before any European battle were fought.

I agree with your facts, but don't tell me I'm wrong about a statement I didn't make!

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I wonder who this anonymous "instigator" poster is? Are you a regular afraid to post under your regular name?

[Bambikiller240]

(Wow, did I really say all that?)

How enlightened you are. I wonder what the country did before you got here.

[instigator]

I wonder what the country did before you got here.

Question is, what are you going to do now that I am here!

[Bambikiller240]

Nothing. I don't need to. I hope you find a sandbox more to your liking.

[instigator]

Nothing. I don't need to. I hope you find a sandbox more to your liking.

I don't have a need for a sandbox. Besides, there are too many "freaks" already inhabiting the Left & Right coastal sandboxes for my tastes anyway!

[ZwolleY]

You seem to be taking all of the heat here. You state that "... you are what you make of yourself." GWB is not a selfmade man. His parents, grandparents, Yale supporters, Carl Rove, and other finnancial and religeous backers made him. He is putty in the hands of these people. So, if what you say is true, and GWB is a selfmade man, well you do not have to think very deeply to visualize what he made of himself. :stupid: