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If you look....I never did mention anything about the US' involvement with Germany. I know my facts. I live in this country and I remember my history class! The US was in the Pacific war front for quite awhile before any European battle were fought.

I agree with your facts, but don't tell me I'm wrong about a statement I didn't make! :finger:

I stand corrected. Yes, you didn't refer to the war in Europe. I thought that you were as you were replying to a thread started under the heading of "To our British and French members" I should have read more. Maybe some other members here should also do the same sometimes, it would be a better place if they did.

Isn't it amazing how some threads seem to morf these days!

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And we are off and racing again with another controversial argument come discussion!!.

Lesson I leant when I was young was never to discuss politics or religion- it will only get you in trouble.

Why don't we look at the contribution of all in WW2 and not just the us and them model.

1. The poms for standing up against Hitler by themselves?

2. The french for donating the battleground and there constant harrassment of the occupiers during WW2.

3. The yanks who contributed their industrial and manpower might. Without it the fighting would never had ended. This also includes the lend lease program before they even entered the war.

4. The russians who sacrificed 20 million people.

5. The kiwis who it could be argued as some of the best fighting force in the world after their fight at Monte Cassino.

6. The canadians who fought in all areas of Europe during WW2 especially the debacle of Dieppe where the leasson were learnt at their expense for D Day.

7. The polish who were let down by a number of countires.

8. The aussies who as a rag tag bunch of reservists managed to inflict the first defeat on the invincible japanese.

9. The japanese and germans who have now gone on to be worthy contributors to today's society (which other nation has it in their consititution that disallows them having offensive weapons)

The list goes on........

We now live in the 21st century - remember the past and the sacrifices made by a lot of brave people but also learn to not to make the same mistakes.

Biker

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Yes, instigator, definitly read this book. It makes clear who is in charge. Another good one is Kitty Kelly's book The Family. I have been uable to pick it up to finnish it since the election outcome. It also makes it perfectly clear who is in charge. Remember that Florida, Georga, S.and N. Carolina and Virginia are also on the east coast and are part of the sand box you are maligning. Texas is also a sand box, well I would really call it a potty box. Really enjoying this thread.

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Hilter's biggest single mistake was not envading Britain. We have the Russians to thank for that as the Russian offensive took longer than Hitler had figured. Over 1 million Russians gave there lives. FACT!

Interesting thought!!! I wouldn't call it a mistake, ( more a failure) as he tried to invade the UK and soon realised that he couldn't. (and I am not suggesting that the British forces were so much better than any one else; we had the English Channel between us and continental Europe for a start)

The Battle of Britain was won by the British with mainly Polish, Australian and New Zealand pilots. Most of the british pilots had already fallen.

Got any numbers to back this up? Sure there were a lot of Polish, Aussie,NZ and other pilots who had escaped to the UK, but I would seriously doubt that they outnumbered the Brits as the Battle of Britain was a very short battle which left very little to time to train pilots let alone getting replacement pilots from abroad. That is however my gut feeling and I am more than happy to be proved wrong by some numbers

War is crap which ever way you look at it.

Yep!

Ironic we are talking (amongst other things) about being at war with Japan on a website dedicated to our appreciation of a japanese car.

In a perverse kind of way I thank the US for dropping atomic bombs on Japan, as if they hadn't, my father would have died in a POW camp on the Burma Railway. However given the suffering that the atomic bombs caused that is not something I am particularly proud of.

Andrew

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And we are off and racing again with another controversial argument come discussion!!.

Lesson I leant when I was young was never to discuss politics or religion- it will only get you in trouble.

Why don't we look at the contribution of all in WW2 and not just the us and them model.

1. The poms for standing up against Hitler by themselves?

2. The french for donating the battleground and there constant harrassment of the occupiers during WW2.

3. The yanks who contributed their industrial and manpower might. Without it the fighting would never had ended. This also includes the lend lease program before they even entered the war.

4. The russians who sacrificed 20 million people.

5. The kiwis who it could be argued as some of the best fighting force in the world after their fight at Monte Cassino.

6. The canadians who fought in all areas of Europe during WW2 especially the debacle of Dieppe where the leasson were learnt at their expense for D Day.

7. The polish who were let down by a number of countires.

8. The aussies who as a rag tag bunch of reservists managed to inflict the first defeat on the invincible japanese.

9. The japanese and germans who have now gone on to be worthy contributors to today's society (which other nation has it in their consititution that disallows them having offensive weapons)

The list goes on........

We now live in the 21st century - remember the past and the sacrifices made by a lot of brave people but also learn to not to make the same mistakes.

Biker

Good post!!!

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