Z Restoration Progam

[HS30-H]

2 hours ago, SpeedRoo said:

Here's another on for Kats to translate, came from 04684, the Green 1970 240Z on BaT. Also is it a delivery note?

I would defer to Kats - of course - and you'll prefer that, but it's pretty simple stuff. Again, logistics. A driver drops off a car on part of its journey and this form is kept as proof of who drove it there and - by inference - that it made the journey safely. 

It is titled 'Sharyo Mochikomi Hyo' and I would translate that - if a little too literally - as 'Vehicle Bringing-In Form' ('Mochikomi' being the action of bringing something somewhere personally, like bringing your own bottle of wine to a restaurant that doesn't have an alcohol license). A better - simpler - translation might be 'Vehicle Delivery Form' or 'Vehicle Delivery Sheet'.  

We have discussed such documents on this forum in the past.    

[DatsunZGuy]

21 hours ago, HS30-H said:

@zspert

The responses from @DatsunZGuy and @SpeedRoo are typical. They want to believe, despite clear evidence to the contrary.

 

Typical? 

I'm amazed how you can reach into someone's mind a read their most inner thoughts. 

My comment was not predicated on the accuracy of the document itself, but simply how an offer to the Z community from a long time member was treated.  It is apparent that tact is not your strong suit. 

Mike has built a business and spent much time and effort creating reproduction parts to keep our Z cars on the road.  The fruits of his labor are actually tangible, and are not just S30 esoteric factoids meant to bloviate.

      

[HS30-H]

15 hours ago, DatsunZGuy said:

My comment was not predicated on the accuracy of the document itself, but simply how an offer to the Z community from a long time member was treated.  It is apparent that tact is not your strong suit. 

Please go back to my post #138 and tell me how you think it justifies your response. As far as I can see - as was my intention - I was respectful, offering "Don't want to ruin hopes and expectations here..." as a preface to my explanation of what the document actually says. Tactful in my book.

And in reply, I got this:

"Whenever one posts anything on any site in the on line universe one runs a considerable risk that he/she will be challenged. My answer is "let's see you do better". If you can,  I'm talking first hand , personal experience, and not something from another site somewhere, I'll be among the first in line to offer congratulations. 

And yet ZSpert himself is very happy to challenge anything that he sees wrong, and is - usually - completely correct in doing so. Nothing wrong with challenging. The "risk" is a good thing. There are no sacred cows on this forum. Peer group critique is an essential part of research.

So where does the "let's see you do better" and all the rest of it come from? I posted my explanation and the document speaks for itself. The simple fact is that it clearly IS NOT the "4/71 240 Build Sheet" that it is labelled as being. So where's the factual push-back? All I - we - got was a flounce. He's taking his ball home.

He also wrote:

"You see, I don't have anything to prove to anyone save myself." 

On the contrary, if any of us posts a 50+ year old document on a specialist forum and makes a claim as to what it represents, it needs to be correctly identified and understood. If we don't get it right, then who will? No 'long term member of the Z community' should get a free pass to a status of infallibility. And yet:

16 hours ago, DatsunZGuy said:

Mike has built a business and spent much time and effort creating reproduction parts to keep our Z cars on the road.  The fruits of his labor are actually tangible, and are not just S30 esoteric factoids meant to bloviate.

Mea culpa. Sorry for the 22+ years of "esoteric factoids" on this forum, LOL. I would have thought that esoteric factoids are the very lifeblood of a forum like this, but maybe your preference is different. And "meant to bloviate"? Apparently you have the power to "...reach into someone's mind a read their most inner thoughts."...?

Of course, bloviation has been around on this forum for a good while. I invite you to pop back to post #32 in this very thread to see an arch exponent at work. Half of it is nonsense, but it goes down as history. It's all just a matter of being a *popular* Guru, see?      

[zspert]

Let it go man! Do all of us a favor and just let it go.

[SpeedRoo]

On 11/23/2024 at 3:07 PM, HS30-H said:

I would defer to Kats - of course - and you'll prefer that, but it's pretty simple stuff. Again, logistics. A driver drops off a car on part of its journey and this form is kept as proof of who drove it there and - by inference - that it made the journey safely. 

It is titled 'Sharyo Mochikomi Hyo' and I would translate that - if a little too literally - as 'Vehicle Bringing-In Form' ('Mochikomi' being the action of bringing something somewhere personally, like bringing your own bottle of wine to a restaurant that doesn't have an alcohol license). A better - simpler - translation might be 'Vehicle Delivery Form' or 'Vehicle Delivery Sheet'.  

We have discussed such documents on this forum in the past.    

Thank you, a simple answer that explains exactly what I was inquiring about. I searched for 240Z delivery documents but couldn't find anything, can you post a link to where they are please?

[HS30-H]

23 minutes ago, SpeedRoo said:

I searched for 240Z delivery documents but couldn't find anything, can you post a link to where they are please?

EG:

 

[HS30-H]

[SpeedRoo]

34 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

EG:

 

Appreciate it, I had searched for 240 delivery documents but these didn't come up.