seat belts

[Bambikiller240]

Thanks for the explanation , Gary.

I'll look for that old thread (and the link it contains).

[Go240Zags]

"I'll look for that old thread (and the link it contains)."

I included the link, below in my first post to this thread. It is from the Smoky Mtn. Z Car Club and includes a variety of tech tips, including using the flywheel out of an 810 for a lighter one; fusebox repair; etc. Someone has put a lot of work into writing/compiling all this stuff. My '64 Chevelle SS had retractable lap belts (only) but having been the seventh owner when I was a youngster I am not sure the retractable part was original. It had these chrome cylindrical mechanisms that rode on the belt itself, when you pulled the male end across your lap they wound a spring to put tension on. When you unbuckled they wound back up. (It's kind of hard to explain). I believe they still sell these somewhere for people who want an easy fix. Out of curiousity I'll look and see if I can't find some for sale somewhere. Go240Zags (formerly GARYZ240)

http://www.automedic.org/smzcc/tech_tips.htm

[Bambikiller240]

.............I included the link in my first post to this thread. It is from the Smoky Mtn. Z Car Club and includes a variety of tech tips, including using the flywheel out of an 810 for a lighter one; fusebox repair; etc. Someone has put a lot of work into writing/compiling all this stuff.

Sheesh, Now why didin't I think to look "up" the page? Anyway, when I tried to save it locally, it turns out that I had already saved the info to my computer when I saw it on the older thread.

My '64 Chevelle SS had retractable lap belts (only) but having been the seventh owner when I was a youngster I am not sure the retractable part was original. It had these chrome cylindrical mechanisms that rode on the belt itself, when you pulled the male end across your lap they wound a spring to put tension on. When you unbuckled they wound back up. (It's kind of hard to explain). I believe they still sell these somewhere for people who want an easy fix. Out of curiousity I'll look and see if I can't find some for sale somewhere. Go240Zags (formerly GARYZ240)

I have been using my late fathers garage as a work space the last couple of years and I found one of them last summer. (you'd be suprised what you will find in someone else's garage!)

[Go240Zags]

Carl, those look about the same as the ones I had. Gary

[Carl Beck]

..snipped... Zags=Gonzaga, a small Catholic Univ. in Spokane, WA. My Alma Matre, as well as John Stockton's who went on to play for the Utah Jazz. ..snipped....

Hi Go240Zags:

If you were around the "Bubble Inn" between 69 and 73... then you would have at least mentioned Bing Crosby in the same breath as Gonzaga High School and Gonzaga University .... yes/no?

Was it "Goofy's" that had the hot spiced wine in the Winter... anyway there was nothing else in the country like "Gonzaga Girls" back then.. and I enjoyed every minute of them... ;-)

FWIW,

Carl B.

Carl Beck

Clearwater, FL USA

http://ZHome.com

[Go240Zags]

Hi Go240Zags:

If you were around the "Bubble Inn" between 69 and 73... then you would have at least mentioned Bing Crosby in the same breath as Gonzaga High School and Gonzaga University .... yes/no?

Was it "Goofy's" that had the hot spiced wine in the Winter... anyway there was nothing else in the country like "Gonzaga Girls" back then.. and I enjoyed every minute of them... ;-)

FWIW,

Carl B.

Carl Beck

Clearwater, FL USA

http://ZHome.com

Warning Thread Hijack

Carl, Bing had passed on (Oct. 77) by the time I got to G.U. in Sept. '79, altho the legend lived on. Spent a lot of time at the Crosby Library he donated. It is now a student lounge I guess. We now have the Foley Library, named after the parents of another fairly famous G.U. grad. Upstairs atCrosby Library they had the Crosbiana Room w/ a copy of his Oscar and the White Christmas gold record. Even a few of his hair pieces (which he hated to wear). We liked to call it the Bingatorium. The biggest legend around campus was that he and his chums threw a baby grand or some sort of piano off the fourth floor of DeSmet Hall. I was there for the dedication of Bing's statue. The statue is bronze and is in front of the old libary. He has his golf hat, clubs and pipe. The Jesuits didn't like the fact that the pipe was stolen quite frequently, so I think they only put it in on special occassions. . His wife Kathy and Phil Harris and some of the younger kids were there for the dedication. I've included a photo of the statue, sans pipe. It is a must have in grad photos and alumni reunion photos. Bing's boyhood home is the Alumni House now. He is still revered by most G.U. grads. They still show the promotional film Bing made to recruit new students to Gonzaga. Yes, I know about Gonzaga H.S. in Spokane (G Prep). Just didn't want people to get the University and G. Prep confused with Gonzaga H.S. in the east. Bubble Inn must be gone, in those days my family went to the big town of Spokane a few times a year or I went for sports events, altho I have more family living in Seattle area. Goofy's must be gone too -- I have some people I know who live in my town that probably remember all those places.

I believe I read that your first 240Z came from Spokane, correct. Were you in the USAF and based at Fairchild? Where'd you get your Z -- Jeremco Motors?

[Carl Beck]

Hi Go240Zags (everyone):

Believe it or not.. I'll get this discussion back to at least DATSUN and 240-Z's, even while keeping it associated with Spokane, Washington! Don't want to hijack the thread, but traffic is slow...

First... all 240-Z's came with lap belts and shoulder belts. Both being required by the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS). In the Series I, 1970/71 model years the two had individual buckles. One for the lap belt and another for the shoulder belt.

From the Series II "Late Model 1971" and forward model years, the shoulder belt hooked onto the seat belt's male side of the buckle.

As you mentioned and I am told - one can use the retracting mechanism from the 280Z 2+2, although I've never done it. I happen to like the manually adjustable types far better.

Meanwhile, back in Spokane, Washington....

Yes, I know Paul. I actually purchased my first 240-Z in March of 1970 from Valley Datsun. Paul Jaremko sold it to me.... that is a long side story in and of itself... I had been at the local Porsche Dealer trying to trade my 67 911S in on a 1970 911E..... we couldn't get together on the price (they wanted to give me next to nothing for my 911 and they wanted top dollar for theirs..). I also had a 1955 Ford Thunderbird at the time.

So as I was on my way back to Fairchild AFB... I happened to pass Valley Datsun and they happened to have a silver 240-Z in the showroom window. It was late in the day and I thought they were closed, so I turned around and went back to look in the showroom windows. I had never seen one before and wondered what it was... whatever it was, it was beautiful!!

As I peered in, Paul came out of his office, saw me standing there... and motioned for me to come to the side door. He let me in.... and to make a very long story short... I bought that car. HLS30 001777.

Being assigned to the 92nd Bomb Wing of the Strategic Air Command... in 1970... my 240-Z sat 6 months in the hangers at Fairchild, as the Wing rotated overseas... six months in SEA then six months in the States... While in the States, Paul and I went auto-crossing on the weekends etc... and I wound up selling DATSUNS for him evenings and weekends...(while off-duty at the base).

When I was finally discharged from the service, I took a job as New and Used Car Sales Manager at Jaremko Motors (downtown store). I am proud to say that Paul and I were friends, and still are to this day. He and his entire family are typical of the people that make you proud to be an American.

At the auto-crosses, no one could beat Paul. I don't know if you know it, but Paul Jaremko won Nissan their First SCCA Regional Championship in 1964. Paul completed 14 successive victories in a DATSUN SPL310. (as mentioned in John B. Rae's book on the History of Nissan USA).

Fred and Pauline, Paul's parents, were among Mr. Katayama's first supporters and first Authorized DATSUN Dealers on the West Coast. Their Daughter and her husband owned the Dealership in Cor de'Lane, Idaho (Boudrey Motors) (spl??).

So what does all this have to do with seat belts and shoulder belts in the 240-Z? If it wasn't for those very early Dealers and racers.. we would never have seen the DATSUN 240-Z by 1970.

I still have the 1972 DATSUN 240-Z that I bought from Paul, at Valley Datsun at the end of 71. For that matter I still have a son that was born in Spokane in 73. Spokane is a town located in a beautiful area of the Country and it's filled with wonderful people. ( I just couldn't take the Winters and the Space Program was located here in Florida... so by 73 it was time to move).

FWIW,

Carl

Carl Beck

Clearwater,FL USA

http://ZHome.com