MSA exhaust fit

[BadDog]

Does anybody else have the MSA "turbo" exhaust fitted up to the stock exhaust manifold on their 240? I just got mine installed at a local shop, and they had a bear of a time getting it to fit (no directions either). They said everything was fine until they had to mount the muffler... it's mounted at a slightly off angle, so the exhaust tip is a little crooked ...

FWIW I got the aluminized version. I can post a picture tonight or tomorrow if needed...

[ZXTACY]

I've had 3 seperate Z's with the same exhaust and never had any fitment problems. Hmmm, bear in mind the qualifications necessary to become a "exhaust welder" and that might explain a portion of why its crooked. ...besides anyone that tells you something was "a bear"... well that just goes with out saying..heh heh (HEY MAAAA!!!!!!!)

[BadDog]

I don't think they had to weld anything but the hangers... I'll take a pic later and post it here :-)

[2ManyZs]

I've had two cars with the MSA 2 1/2 inch exhaust and never had any trouble either, but, I had mine hooked to a header so there may have been a slight difference. Sounds to me though they may have done it "bass-ackwards". They should have mounted the muffler first then tinkered with the pipes to line up the muffler right and get it right in front. If I remember right the intermediate pipe by the trans had a slight bend in it, maybe they have that wrong, if you can loosen it up and turn it, it may help line everything up.

BTW, I know they are expensive at about $8.50 each, but the stainless band clamps are really the way to go. They don't crimp the pipe like old style muffler clamps, so taking apart an exhaust or just loosening it up for alignment problems is just a matter of loosening 2 bolts. No more crimped pipes that have to be hammered, cussed at, cut up if you need to make a small change like changing a muffler later.

[BadDog]

Well here's some pics, just in case anybody wants to try and internet-diagnose... i can take more of specific areas

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exhaust pic 2

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exhaust pic 3

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exhaust pic 4

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exhaust pic 5

[2ManyZs]

I think it may due to the muffler. The muffler that comes in the kit I have is an offset inlet/offset outlet. The muffler is mounted vertically, with the inlet on top and the outlet on the bottom. Yours looks like a offset inlet/ center outlet, but if you try to turn it so the mufflers flat sides are more vertical it might work.

Try loosening the clamps on the mufflet and underneath and turning the muffler. You might get it to line up better if you turn it more vertical thereby raising the inlet slightly and it will pull the rest of the pipe away from the centerline of the car and this may straighten the outlet in the opening. That is if they didn't crimp the pipes so much with the old style clamps so that the pipe won't turn. One reason I love the band clamps, you can loosen them and re-adjust the pipes, and you won't have the crimp in the pipe to make is so hard to pull a pipe off.

[BadDog]

I think they tried it vertically, but I'll try it tomorrow. It looks like they didn't weld the hangers on, just slipped then underneath the clamps. I think I'll also call MSA to see if I got the wrong type of muffler! :-)

Thanks again, 2ManyZs. (and again, and again, and again )

[BadDog]

They crimped the pipes with the old-style clamps. I couldn't get it to budge at all The shop that did it claimed that the pipe before the muffler "must be bent wrong" because it wouldn't line up to the muffler if it were to be in the "right way". Guess I'm stuck for now...