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I agree with all of your points there gav, apart from one...See the the LJ XU1 GTR, according to Wheels August 96' issue, made 142kw in the new money, which translates to 190.4251367232001hp. I agree that the Japs definitely win when it comes to technology, and the L motor was more technically advanced than the Holden Reds, but the Red in the GTR was not a sleeper. Sure, the efficiency per litre is in favour of the L, but those XU1's were tuned within an inch of their life. Oh and what about the torque from 3.3 litres? Not sure if youve heard one before but its a very noisy 142kw :D. I think a z, though, when tuned to the same level as the xu1, would have it for breakfast, luch and dinner... :rambo:

Tom

p.s I think its one of the few holdens i have a soft spot for :classic:

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Nah i think that modern holdens and fords have lost the plot even more! With the exception of the monaro they're just family cars with juicy engines! I drive a BA XR6, and it handles TERRIBLY. Especially in the wet. I'm very unimpressed.

I'm not saying this to put down aussie car makers. My hate comes from the fact they wanna stop grey imports and make us all buy aussie cars. Which would be fine if we made some to compete with the jap cars, which we really don't. Especially not at an affordable price. Tha's my 2 cents, sorry if that annoys ppl hehe.

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G'Day Gavin,

No mate, I haven't tried them yet. I'd prefer to deal with a fellow member if possible.

I'd like to think that a fellow member would be more honest in a transaction.

No Carl, not yet mate. Fortunately, I have the patience of a saint and I'm NEVER in a hurry to do something. One of the advantages of retirement.

Rick.

ROFLROFL

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