Since the air in the intake chamberis at a closer temperature to what goes passed the injectors and into the cylinders, wouldn't it be a good idea to move the temp sensor from the AFM to someplace in the large chamber of the Intake?

thx

Geeee, do you think the design engineers at Nissan had a good reason for where they placed the sensor? :stupid:

That reasoning can be applied to any part on a car- even a Z. Why do you think people replace the coil, spark plug wires & spark plugs, intake tubes, engine oil, transmission, etc. with something different?

Can you think of a reason for not moving it to a different location?

That reasoning can be applied to any part on a car- even a Z. Why do you think people replace the coil, spark plug wires & spark plugs, intake tubes, engine oil, transmission, etc. with something different?

Can you think of a reason for not moving it to a different location?

Those items you mentioned are "replaced" with upgrades, fine. When you start moving items around from their natural flow on a FI car you're just asking for a hiccup or a major failure.

Vicky

Thanks for the added comments Vicky. TomoHawk, you should definitely leave your Z stock and resist any urge to venture beyond your capabilities!!!

That reasoning can be applied to any part on a car- even a Z. Why do you think people replace the coil, spark plug wires & spark plugs, intake tubes, engine oil, transmission, etc. with something different?

Can you think of a reason for not moving it to a different location?

Because it works where it is?

There's no reason not to try it in a different place to see if you can get better performance out of the engine. It seems to work the way it is, but there's always room for a little improvement.

Just as If the stock airbox is so great, why do people take it off to put on a cold air tube? Or a bigger throttle body?

Vicky suggests using caution, and consider what might happen and what your goal is, to possibly ovoid a change that might be detrimental to the mechanical function of the engine.

Thanks for the added comments Vicky. TomoHawk, you should definitely leave your Z stock and resist any urge to venture beyond your capabilities!!!

Your advice (as good as it is) has been delivered too late.

Perhaps a 6 layer AFDB would help? 12 layer?

Perhaps a 6 layer AFDB would help? 12 layer?

what is that?

Perhaps you would like to insist that all those people who put in the headlight relays to improve their headlights, take them out because the Nissan engineers didn't originally design it that way?

what is that?

AFDB

Perhaps you would like to insist that all those people who put in the headlight relays to improve their headlights, take them out because the Nissan engineers didn't originally design it that way?

No, they are using known technology to perform a proven upgrade.

Not quite the same as pulling a fanciful idea out of thin air, with ZERO research to even indicate any possible benefit.

But Hey, It's your car, Go For It!

You know every good idea starts with a "what if..." That part requires NO research. The thing is to pose the question, THEN do research or figure out if something can be done, or how the idea should be changed to be more successful. In the example of the headlight relays, it wasn't known that the relays would definitely improve things. Notuntil somebody tried it. Will is trying different l.e.d.s to see which one(s) will do the job he wants. That's the research part. Then he'll probably share his findings, or maybe put a developed product for sale.

I have other ideas I'm working on, and things with higher priorities, so I'm not going to use that time for this idea. Maybe later.

thx

Since the air in the intake chamberis at a closer temperature to what goes passed the injectors and into the cylinders, wouldn't it be a good idea to move the temp sensor from the AFM to someplace in the large chamber of the Intake?

thx

Don't see why not.

Give it a try and then let the rest of us know how it worked or didn't.

The best way to find out if your ideas hold water is to go try them out, especially when your ideas seem to go against the grain of common thought.

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You know every good idea starts with a "what if..." That part requires NO research. The thing is to pose the question, THEN do research or figure out if something can be done, or how the idea should be changed to be more successful.

That is true, tho I question the forum you chose to pose the question. Wouldn't any response be more valid if given by an EFI expert (I mean a REAL expert, not a garage expert?

In the example of the headlight relays, it wasn't known that the relays would definitely improve things. Notuntil somebody tried it.

I'm not sure about this statement either, but if think that's the case, OK

Will is trying different l.e.d.s to see which one(s) will do the job he wants. That's the research part. Then he'll probably share his findings, or maybe put a developed product for sale.

That's just it, he's DOING something. He grabbed the bull by the horns and is working on a solution.

I have other ideas I'm working on, and things with higher priorities, so I'm not going to use that time for this idea. Maybe later.thx

So, then the point of this thread was..................nothing?