Low Compression 1/4 Mile Times FYI

[spudea]

So it's your contention that adding a two-muffler 2.5" crush bent exhaust that is 1/4 collapsed from bottoming under the rear end is worth a full second.

Maybe I should sell it on E-Bay as a one-second modification.

Sure go for it. That claim is applicable. A fellow z'er has told me a 2.5" exhaust dropped about 1 second off his 1/4 time.

[Tony D]

"What was your mph in the 1/4? If it is over 84mph you cannot claim it as stock."

I don't have the time slips, but my recollection was I was deep in third gear at close to 90mph (maybe 89?). The times are in the archives there. Look them up.

Say what you want, there ARE cars out there that you will not explain. Because it seems fast to you, does not mean ANYTHING was done to it AT ALL!

You ARE bashing me, because this is no more than anyone said of bubbles, and you claim this same sort of disagreement is bashing...

I may be a "delusional fool", (that's not bashing at all) but I know there are vehicles that self-proclaimed experts can not explain.

The contention was that a 15.XX car is something "fast" and it is WELL WITHIN the statistical variation of a STOCK vehicle. That has been my contention all along. It is not delusional, it is fact.

Like I said, because you can't fathom it is your problem, not mine.

[spudea]

Like I said, because you can't fathom it is your problem, not mine.

You are right. I can't fathom a stock Z running a 15.4. However I can fathom a non-stock Z running a 15.4, which is what you have.

[spudea]

BTW, did you have any weight reduction?

Anyways, you are delusional if you continue to claim it as stock. From the factory, in 1976, a stock 2+2 280z would not run faster than 84mph in the 1/4. So to say that your z was stock is obviously wrong. To continue stating something that is wrong=delusional.

[Tony D]

I weigh 330#. What am I allowed to remove from the car to make it "stock?"

I believe my car weighed 2965 or 2695# on the track scales the day I was running.

If you seriously think I did anything "special" to the car, you make me laugh.

It really is a rolling POS. I can't even open the doors now because the damned latch arms snapped off and I haven't had time to fix them.

My contention all along was nothing special was done to my car, and that a STOCK car will run near that time without much effort at all. My 260Z which is arguably stock runs low 16's. It runs faster than the "modified" 280Z coupes that were running 16.45's. And that was with my 330# in the driver's seat. Were I to tweak on that 260, I am sure it would easily break into the 15's. BONE STOCK.

If you want to say changing to a crush bent replacement exhaust system that is quieter than stock as some great performance adder, then I have this bridge in Brooklyn I have for sale... You might be interested...

[spudea]

Talk about bashing. To do it to one's face is one thing. To do it behind their back... welllll....

I "bashed" you about this same thing to your face on zcar.com. Yet you still claimed it as bone stock comparing it against bubbles times. So to come to this site and call you a delusional fool when it is the truth is not bashing you behind your back.

[spudea]

If you want to say changing to a crush bent replacement exhaust system that is quieter than stock as some great performance adder, then I have this bridge in Brooklyn I have for sale... You might be interested...

Well it increased your mph by 5 or more in the 1/4. I'd say that is pretty good.

[Tony D]

I "bashed" you about this same thing to your face on zcar.com. Yet you still claimed it as bone stock comparing it against bubbles times. So to come to this site and call you a delusional fool when it is the truth is not bashing you behind your back.

No, that's bashing.

And it's why your cohort was removed. There is a namecalling point that some peopel cross when they have no real argument to present.

Apparently you reach that point quickly.

But to do it at a place where I do not frequent, that is doing it behind someone's back, and is poor form. It is indicative of your character. It is a sad statement of your class and upbringing. As a matter of fact, it's just sad...

I'm all in, I actually have a job in the morning, this, and Leno is boring, so that's it for me. Believe what you will. I could trot out a Nissan Resto car and turn 15's and you would call it "not stock" yet still have no single stick of reasoning behind it other than your "expert contention" that it simply is impossible for a stock car to do that kind of time.

[spudea]

if stating the truth is bashing, thats a new one to me. If a nissan resto car was exactly how it came off the line in the 70's I wouldn't have to call it not stock because you wouldn't break into the 15's in the first place.

[Tony D]

Ahhh, alas, the "American Attitude"....

:Rolls Eyes:

[spudea]

Well then lets review.

Z running below 84mph in 1/4=stock car

Your Z running 89+mph in 1/4=non-stock car

You have claimed numerous times in the past that your z was BONE STOCK, or stock=wrong

You claiming a Z running 95mph in 1/4 is close to stock performance=wrong, thats up to 2 car lengths ahead of your car.

Your continued wrongness in this matter=delusional

Stating that you are delusional=truth

Stating the truth=Whatever you want to take it as. You thinking you are being "bashed" behind your back is your problem, when i've stated all this in your face on zcar.com

[spudea]

Those are the facts, which have been repeated for the good folks on classiczcars.com. Take them how you wish. Anything that can be said about those facts is superficial, has probrably been said before, and doesn't change anything. I'm tired of repeating myself so I'm done. If you want to continue your delusion that is great, but don't get offended if someone calls you delusional. But that is impossible, because people who are delusional don't think that they are delusional so they will always get offended if they are called delusional........

I'm out of this thread.