Beeper Switch? from Kats's thread.

[Zedrally]

I noticed this comment in Kats's Z Restoration Thread, not wanting to hijack the thread I'm starting a new one and wondered exactly what it is/was?

5.Steering lock mechanism/the one has currently available style,it's cylinder is relatively fat and a beeper switch is on the entrance of a key,but the other has early style which got narrower cylinder and a beeper switch is in the middle,right hand side.Do the judges mind it?

I can't say I've seen this on any HS30 models. Was it unique to HLS30 models?

MOM

[240 in OZ]

Just a guess here; beeper may = deeper?

[EScanlon]

The beeper is actually a buzzer.

Kat's is referring to the Key-In Reminder Buzzer Switch which is located in the ignition lock cylinder.

Apparently there were two different style locking mechanisms and one had the location of the switch in the center of the key cylinder.

Enrique

[Zedrally]

Never seen this!

Must be unique to HLS 30...as the Wiring Dia. for HS30 doesn't support this either.

MOM

[26th-Z]

I think Kats is talking about this type of ignition switch. Notice the black box on top of the cylinder.

[Bambikiller240]

I think Kats is talking about this type of ignition switch. Notice the black box on top of the cylinder.

That looks like the replacement Ignition Lock /SW assembly that I bought a year or so ago. The black part is just a cover for the two lugs that those wires are soldered to. (I had to remove this cover to reconnect one of the wires that was ripped out by a would-be thief. The switch must be internal to the lock itself.

What other type of Ignition lock/sw is there (other than this one?)

[EScanlon]

The other style did not have that hood, and the wires just led in directly into the switch which is located at the "top" of the cylinder housing. That is, the wires are almost where the bezel meets the cylinder.

Carl; in the one you discuss that Rick pictured, could that hood have been for a lamp?

Enrique

[Bambikiller240]

The other style did not have that hood, and the wires just led in directly into the switch which is located at the "top" of the cylinder housing. That is, the wires are almost where the bezel meets the cylinder.

Carl; in the one you discuss that Rick pictured, could that hood have been for a lamp?

Enrique

You mean the one Chris (26th-Z) posted? As I went to take pictures of my Ignition Locks I've discovered that mine are somewhat different than the one Chris shows. The wires on mine are on the opposite side of the assembly.

On my parts, No, it couldn't be for a lamp, it's completely enclosed, except at the end where the wires protrude. Inside the enclosure, there is only the lugs that the wires are soldered to.

All 3 of my Locks have the wires in a different location from the one shown by Chris, and only the New Replacement one has the hood.

I have attached 1 pic (IMGP1059 Large) of a new OEM Replacement Lock that I bought from Courtesy about 1.5 yrs ago. The other two pics (IMGP1060 Large and IMGP 1061 Large) are original Ignition Locks from 3/71 and 11/71 mfg'd HLS30-U's and don't have the black plastic hood over the wires.

I also have a (4 yrs relatively new) Replacement Lock installed in my car and it is identical to the one shown with the hood.

[26th-Z]

Yea, mine is different, Carl. 1969 stuff, ya know. It takes the single sided, egg lobe key (short one). I won't be able to get out to the shop to look at it until Sunday. The picture I posted was in the files from when I rebuilt the locks for 26th.

[Zedrally]

OK,

So all the US spec S30 came with a beeper that let you know that you had left the key in, correct?

MOM

[26th-Z]

All of a sudden it occurs to me; "Look it up in the book"!!! Here is what I have. The FSM goes on to say; "WARNING BUZZER It operates if the door is unlocked with the key inserted in the steering lock" The warning buzzer is installed on the steering support.

And then back to Kats' original question; would the judges mind"? I find it hard to imagine the judges would know, let alone object. Further more, all of this would require removal of covers and peering up under the dash to see. Of course, it could be audibly demonstated.

I'll also comment that the more I look at my cars and compare parts to later manufacturing dates and later models, the more I find different. It's maddening, the number of peculiar parts I have to deal with. I could hypothetically go down to my Datsun dealer and buy new replacement parts for my car and I would probably end up with something like a Vintage Z. Or I could take the original stuff and restore it to good working order - used, but still working. What a fun game, huh?

[EScanlon]

....The FSM goes on to say; "WARNING BUZZER It operates if the door is unlocked with the key inserted in the steering lock" The warning buzzer is installed on the steering support.

Then from the picture Chris posted:

"he steering lock is combined with the ignition switch to a single unit which contains warning buzzer microswitch for reminding the drive to lock the steering. The microswitch is connected to a warning buzzer."

Mine only operates when the door is OPENED and the key is still in the lock, regardless of whether the steering wheel is locked by the ignition lock or not.

The translation from the FSM may have mistaken UNLATCHED i.e. opened; with unlocked, but the picture text doesn't "compute", unless there was a separate switch that we're presuming is the same as this one.

Hmm, carchaelogy......

Enrique