Loose shifter, type A tranny

[DJACEY(UK)]

Just out of interest, I have managed to obtain a Type A 5 speed box for my US 1970 240Z from an early RHD UK model. This allows me to have the 5 gears available without needing to modify or swap the original centre console for the later type. Was this gearbox also available in the US ?

[sahunt66]

Steve: The auction is for only 2 of the 3 bushings. It is missing the one for the end of the shifter.

BTW, these are for the "B" type trans. (which is sounds like someone has installecd in your 1970 vintage car). The "A" type trans had a shifter that used two big rubber bushings and the shifter mounted external to the transmission case. These "A" type transmissions were used from 1969 production until the beginning of 1972 model production (around 8/71 mfg date) on HLS30-U cars

Mine is the A type, I've verified this. The two large rubber bushings at the end of the shift lever are fine. It's slop is at the pin. Is there nothing that can be done to take out the slop? Maybe instead of the pin, I could use a bolt with a nylock nut?

Steve

[Bambikiller240]

Just out of interest, I have managed to obtain a Type A 5 speed box for my US 1970 240Z from an early RHD UK model. This allows me to have the 5 gears available without needing to modify or swap the original centre console for the later type. Was this gearbox also available in the US ?

I believe that it was "available" from the Datsun Competition catalog. I don't think any HLS30-U 240Z's were "delivered" to the USA with the "A" 5 speed from the factory.

[Bambikiller240]

Mine is the A type, I've verified this. The two large rubber bushings at the end of the shift lever are fine. It's slop is at the pin. Is there nothing that can be done to take out the slop? Maybe instead of the pin, I could use a bolt with a nylock nut?

Steve

Perhaps, but I would think that you'd want to make sure the bolt is strong enough that it's not going to get sheared in half at some time.

You might want to inquire on a Roadster website since they have had to deal with these transmissions more than us Z guys.

[richyboycaldo]

I had the same problem, so I placed a thin washer between forks and helped a bit. Any other suggestions?

[Darrel]

Hello to an old thread from 2005!!!

Maybe the mods could put a lock on threads that are 2 yrs old and over?

[Skyhook]

Back in the day "Z" enthusiasts were taking the 5-speed trannys from the 2000 roadsters and using an adapter bellhousing to put in the early Z cars.

[sblake01]

Not sure tht would solve the problem. Isn't a roadster trans essentially the same as a type A? I put a 2000 roadster 5 speed in my 1600 roadster 'back in the day'.

[richyboycaldo]

Hello to an old thread from 2005!!!

Maybe the mods could put a lock on threads that are 2 yrs old and over?

I'am the OP and still have the same problem, no harm done.

[richyboycaldo]

I found a similar issue, someplace else, apparently there is a guy from Zspecialites called Z man of Washington that sells some bushing kits for Type A, here is the link.

"If you have the "A" type, the shifter rod passes through a pipe with rubber bushings and connects with a nut on the end of the shifter. Check here to see the physical difference. http://www.zhome.com/ZCMnL/tech/69-83TrannyShifterDrawing.jpg

Z man of washinton has bushing kits for the A type. I have used a nut and bolt through the folk connection point to tighten up the slack there. Use a self locking nut (nylock) or a pair of skinny nuts locked together to leave the joint moveable but still provide compression to remove the play."

http://www.zcar.com/70-83_tech_discussion_forum/240z_sick_shifter_891684.0.html

http://zspecialties.com/

[sblake01]

I'am the OP and still have the same problem, no harm done.

You may be the O.P. in the other thread but not in this one.........

[richyboycaldo]

You may be the O.P. in the other thread but not in this one.........

my bad, here the other thread I did 4 years ago.

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?p=357021&posted=1#post357021