Indy 500 Not Won By Danica Patrick!

[sopwith21]

Funny the media doesn't mention much about that in his bio? Sopwith is right, it's all the media's fault. They did mention that his dad was a famous racer though. I think they should just stick to his records, which are too numerous to list.

What a great point.

Hire a hooker and lose your job. Dress like one and make the cover of Sports Illustrated.

[Bambikiller240]

Society deems hiring a hooker to be illegal, dressing like one for a photograph is legal.

Endevour to change the laws if you have a problem with any of that.

I wonder which of Tomas' "records" were referred to by Panchovisa.

[sopwith21]

Society deems hiring a hooker to be illegal, dressing like one for a photograph is legal.

Ah, but fortunately we don't have to concern ourselves with all of society... as you'll recall, we were discussing Danica's public treatment as compared to other Indy drivers. Woe be unto him who dares to hold both to the same standard.

[panchovisa]

Your argument would carry more weight if you discussed Tomas public treatment(or ANY other IRL'er) to the OTHER IRL'ers (excluding your pet project Danica).

Excluding Danica's press at Indy, who would you have said received more press undeservedly than Giaffone? Than Herta? Then Carpenter? WHO, WHO, WHO?

EDIT: "Woe be unto him who dares to hold both to the same standard."

If this is the case, you should ask your contacts in the media to please add the line "Thomas Scheckter, former F1 test driver who was released to the IRL following an arrest for soliciting for sex" every time they mention "Danica Patrick, former model for FMH (Slick, Stack, whatever) while seeking press to further fledgling racing career"

EDIT 2: Or this, "Tomas Scheckter, who has crashed three times more winning cars than Danica has sat in". Or this "Tomas Schecktor who's father pimped him to the racing insiders, much as Danica pimped her own *ss in a men's magazine".

You get the idea. Right?

[sopwith21]

You get the idea. Right?

Of course. The idea is to justify, mitigate or distract from the simple fact that Danica is a good driver who's accomplishments have been dramatically overstated and overpublicized because of gender.

Bring up Tomas' past... denigrate the race... insult Tony George... ignore the topic and attack the speaker... do anything, but DON'T address the basic assertion of this thread, summarized in the previous sentence.

[panchovisa]

Well I think this thread is done.

"the simple fact that Danica is a good driver". Agreed, though I would have said rookie driver.

"who's accomplishments have been dramatically overstated". How do accomplishments get overstated? Do you suggest that these have been "made up"? Can't agree here, sorry.

"and overpublicized because of gender". Well why did it take 2 and 1/2 weeks and 24 posts to get to your point?

Was it so hard to say "chick racer"?

I just say "racer", or "rookie", but then again her being a chick, or the rest of the drivers being guys, is of no matter..

[26th-Z]

Here. This is too funny

http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/3701634

[Bambikiller240]

Yeah, that IS funny. But not as funny as the same JACKASS (Bernie) allowing the 2005 USGP to be turned into a farce.

As someone who truely hates Tony George, it pains me to say that he, AND THE PAYING SPECTATORS got royally screwed by Bernie the Buffoon.

Let the Lawsuits begin!!!!

[panchovisa]

Hope that in 2008 Bernie is left holding the bag (his own preferably) and the manufactures have their own series (minus Ferrari).

Bernie can say that his two cars (Ferrari) are the real championship all he wants. Ask the folks who spent money to see the USGP farce if they think it's a show worth watching.

I think TG should stop payment on the sanctioning fee to cover ticket refunds.

The fans contracted with TG and the Speedway to see a World Championship event. TG contracted with F1 (Bernie) to stage the same.

Tony is liable (morally, if not legally) to the fans, and F1 is legally liable to TG, so start filling papers.

[Bambikiller240]

Hope that in 2008 Bernie is left holding the bag (his own preferably) and the manufactures have their own series (minus Ferrari).

Bernie can say that his two cars (Ferrari) are the real championship all he wants. Ask the folks who spent money to see the USGP farce if they think it's a show worth watching.

I think TG should stop payment on the sanctioning fee to cover ticket refunds.

The fans contracted with TG and the Speedway to see a World Championship event. TG contracted with F1 (Bernie) to stage the same.

Tony is liable (morally, if not legally) to the fans, and F1 is legally liable to TG, so start filling papers.

I agree with all you say.

But there is one additional thing that I'd like to point out that neither of us has mentioned so far................

Danica didn't win this one either!!!!!!!!!!!

[panchovisa]

We will have to see if HS30-H (Alan) saw any news in the UK about this Indy race! I Imagine that the winner of this race didn't get many accolades either.

F1 is such a political farce, Ferrari (Bernie's defactor corporate team) was the lone holdout to a rational compromise. Why? Because they were sure to get results against what remained of the grid.

The FIA could have let Michelin bring in different tires and fore those teams to start from the pits, or given a time penality.

Most of all, Bernie could have been a LEADER who cares after the check clears!

[panchovisa]

When CART cancelled their race in Texas I belived they were sued by TIR and lost. They also were replaced at TIR by the IRL.

Makes you wonder if TG will be looking to book the WOGAM, ABSCAM, GOKART, or whatever they call themselves now for a roadrace thrue the infield next years.

I can see the headlines "All is well, CART and Speedway make up, races to be held seperate weekends!".