Posted June 23, 200519 yr comment_128294 Just wondering..i was planning on trying to get a set of RS Watanabe's in F16x8(0), R16x8.5(-6) as according to watanabe, this is the max for the KPGC110now, i figured that since i had the guards, that those would be fine, but now i realise that the KPGC110 had a different rear offset to the KPGC110, so will that through out my idea? the wheels have to be legal as it has to go through engineeringaccording to the site, the GC110 has F/R 14x6.5(+14.5) and the KPGC110 has F14x8(-6) R14x8.5(-13) out of the factory (well i assume that is what it is according to the table) http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/index2.htmKent Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 23, 200519 yr comment_128358 Do you know precisely what 'legal' entails? According to what I could find: - OVERALL diameter of tyre+rim must not exceed +25mm or -26mm- Rims and tyres may not protrude past any bodywork when viewing from above - Tyres may not be more than 1.3x wider than vehicles widest optional tyre - Track (from centre of wheel to centre of wheel on same axle) may not be increased more than 26mm Now, as far as I know for the '74 240K the widest tyre was 175. That means 225 is the widest you could go... You could probably argue 185, and that's still only 235 - which would fit on the 8.5 and according to Yokohama you can fit that onto the 8.5 without too much stretch. I've got 14x7.5 front and 14x9 rear and with about zero camber they fit just under the flares. When I lowered it the negative camber brought the top of the wheel in more (and the bottom out more) - I'm guessing you'd install a camber kit too (or do the modification 440k has details on (if engineerable!)). according to the site, the GC110 has F/R 14x6.5(+14.5) and the KPGC110 has F14x8(-6) R14x8.5(-13) out of the factory (well i assume that is what it is according to the table) http://www.rs-watanabe.co.jp/index2.htm I think that is just the maximum-width table there, the difference being the GC110 doesn't have flares, 'course! Out of factory they both came with 5" steel wheels. So yeah, did I confuse issues even more? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-128358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 24, 200519 yr Author comment_128374 no, that is a great help, if 9" fits for you, then 8.5" is good enough for me!, what are your offsets?I wasn't aware of the 1.3x rule either! but does the difference in wheel offsets mean that it blows out the track change maximum of 26mm?Would love for some more info on 440k's camber mods too ;D Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-128374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
June 24, 200519 yr comment_128390 Whoa!! it's not my modification - I can't take credit for it. :nervous: It's a fairly common mod done on 1600's, which consists of slotting the holes on the rear crossmember that hold the rear control arms. This has been done on seriously lowered IRS dattos since the 70's.Datsport sells exchange X-members with the mod, and an adjusting bolt. See HERE for some pics and details of the Datsport kit.Essentially, you slot the outer brackets fore / aft, so that you can adjust the toe. The inner brackets are slotted up and down, so you can adjust camber.This can be done at home by a semi skilled handyman with a pencil grinder (or round file). The big trick is to hold it all in place once the adjustment has been done.Yes, the track is measured from the centreline of the back tyres, so if you put big offset wheels on, then this increases your track. I Think that we may get around it with the fact that the GTR had a wider track (I think? Did it???).Thing is, as long as it's well done, and you have flares to stop the tyres protruding past the guards, you will get away with it (ie not be picked on for it). I don't know the implications re insurance etc though. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-128390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 3, 200519 yr comment_129429 i have 15x10 watanabes under my 73 c110 ill post pics later if it helps, i still have another 1/2 inch more to be flush with the flare so i can be safe running 11s or maybe 12s. my buddy in japan saw a pair of 15x12s for about 600USD. mikey Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-129429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 4, 200519 yr comment_129551 Some photos of your wheels and the car would be good Mikey... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-129551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 28, 200519 yr comment_132305 heres pics of the wheels Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-132305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
July 28, 200519 yr comment_132306 heres a couple pics of the car Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-132306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 9, 200519 yr comment_145228 there sum prity phat wheels how much did u pay for them thows mags are cool to don't reokon i would hav goen with the blak thow mabe steel or cromy tinge on gold but that just me looks good thow Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-145228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 200519 yr comment_146481 english please^^^^ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-146481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 200519 yr comment_146487 your from Australia.. and you speak like a less edumacated folk from da dirty south here in America.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-146487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
November 19, 200519 yr comment_146493 As a Southerner, I resent that. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/16342-wide-wheels-again-d/#findComment-146493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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