Canuk240Z Posted June 28, 2005 Share #1 Posted June 28, 2005 Here is one on eBay:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4558588489&category=6187Opinions? It has a dash cap, the battery tray has been replaced and second paint job. No cuts in doors or panels, etc. Value? Good deal? Any and all opinions taken into consideration.Still looking for that Z to bring back to Canada!Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hls30.com Posted June 28, 2005 Share #2 Posted June 28, 2005 Because of who sold it to this guy and his track record of a lack of understanding of vocabulary, I would want to thoroughly check the car out(or have it checked out by someone who knows what "original" and "restoration" mean) before I bought it as an original car-you might get an original car that was restored with later model parts-meaning it has been put in serviceable and cosmetic shape with parts that fit but did not come on a 240Z.Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e_racer1999 Posted June 28, 2005 Share #3 Posted June 28, 2005 looks nice, but it will never be fully original Q: Is the non-original engine a 2.4 or 2.8 block? Jun-26-05 A: The car has an 2.6 ATK Block. ATK blocks are better then new. Still has the original original SU Carbs and Air Cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted June 28, 2005 Share #4 Posted June 28, 2005 Hi Guys:With Will's warning taken seriously.. if you go check the car over... and if it is as rust free and straight as described....At this point in time.. the "Buy-It-Now" price on the car represents a bargain in the 240-Z market. (your paying $3000.00 for the car plus $4,500.00 for all the paint and body work.. everything else already done on the car is FREE).A good straight, rust free, unrestored, unrefreshed 240-Z in presentable condition, with 90K to 120K miles, that runs out fine... has a base price of around $5,500.00. This would be a car that would be a good starting point for a full refresh.. or restoration..No matching number engine, leaves it out of any future Collector Market... so deduct about $1,500.00... now it's a $4k car.OK... now take it apart, fresh paint to above average but not "SHOW" quality..$4,500.00Put it back together.. with all new:bumperschrome scripts/emblems etcWeather strips/sealsCarpet, Seats, door panels, interior plastic panelshoses, belts, water pump, fuel pump, battery, rebuilt SU's.. new radiator, new heater control valve and hoses...Do a fresh brake jobDo a fresh clutchDo a rebuilt tranny.. find a good rear gear..On and on it goes... by the time you duplicate this car... You'll easily have spent a year or more of your time.... and easily an additional $15K...You now have a car that is as good as this one is supposed to be for only $19K - and this one might be as good as presented...Oh... you want to really go full restoration... all period correct bits and pieces.. show quality paint... Add another $20K to $25K today.If this car checks out as described... rust free.. solid, above average paint... running fine.. he has it priced at least $2K under it's current market value.. If it had it's original engine.. it would be easily a $11K to $14K car...Buy this car as a driver for the enthusiast.. local shows where matching numbers don't matter as much.. maybe a future L28 turbo project.. take care of it and it will still be worth the money two, five or ten years from now... maybe a whole lot more..If your serious about buying a very nice driver.. go check it out carefully in person.. and buy it now at $7,500.00... plan to spend an additional $4K on small items.. just to have a bit of fun with the car.. Any one that has spend any time looking for a good (not excellent, not perfect... just "good") 240-Z now knows how hard it is getting to be to find one.FWIW,Carl B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Carter Posted June 28, 2005 Share #5 Posted June 28, 2005 Not a bad driver and a "fair" price for a driver from what I can see. Not a candidate for a concours car however. I would be concerned with what Too Intense has done, and the quality of work. A closer look would be necessary to make a determination.R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zman525 Posted June 28, 2005 Share #6 Posted June 28, 2005 seems like a decent deal, but it is sitting in snow so check out the rust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pressedsteel Posted June 28, 2005 Share #7 Posted June 28, 2005 Not sure where you are at but, this car is located about 30 minutes from me. I would be interested myself if I had the space. Send me a message if you are serious about this car. I would love an excuse to go check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrush Posted June 28, 2005 Share #8 Posted June 28, 2005 What is a "ATK" block?Vicky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasz Posted June 28, 2005 Share #9 Posted June 28, 2005 What is a "ATK" block?VickyDo a quick search on ATK and you will find many threads talking about them including this one: http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3799&highlight=atk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerRob Posted June 28, 2005 Share #10 Posted June 28, 2005 Before you buy this car, get a compression check done on it.I bought a rebuilt ATK 280z engine through MSA about five years ago. After putting around 3k miles on it, it blew a head gasket. I had to have my Z mechanic fix the problem. On inspection of the parts in the engine, he discovered three badly pitted head bolts, which was the cause of the head gasket failure. He also informed me that they used an inferior head gasket. I contacted ATK concerning this problem and they told me the cause was pre-detonation, and that it wasn't their problem. My attorney told me I would have to sue them in their district, so I just ate the cost of repairs.I will NEVER buy an ATK engine again. :mad: BTW, pre-detonation is usally caused by carbon buildup in the cumbustion chamber (not a likely condition in a correctly rebuilt engine). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Beck Posted June 28, 2005 Share #11 Posted June 28, 2005 Not sure where you are at but, this car is located about 30 minutes from me. I would be interested myself if I had the space. Send me a message if you are serious about this car. I would love an excuse to go check it out.I have a couple of serious buyers looking for a nice Z... Would also be interesting to see how this one actually looks in person. I guess I didn't realize it was done by Too Intense... now I more fully understand the warning... By all means go check it out for us.. and be sure to get underneath and look closely..thanks,Carl B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuk240Z Posted June 29, 2005 Author Share #12 Posted June 29, 2005 Thanks for the information. I am going to wait and try and find one through the classifieds on this site or zcar.com. I don't want the pressure of an auction to cloud my judgement. The car looks good, but without seeing it first??? Your points are valid. Early Z's are getting harder to find. As anyone who has worked on cars before knows, you rarely if ever get your money out of a restoration, especially if you factor in your time. That's why this car "looks" like a steal. I am looking in the $8000-10 000 USD range, so I hope a decent car will come up. Z's in Canada are so rare and hard to find that the "market" value of any given car does not really apply. What I mean is that if any of these cars were listed up north, they would get top dollar. There are just none around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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