Worried....how do u protect ur z from being stolen

[EScanlon]

If you park on the street in town where there are alot of cars really close by then they wouldnt have room to get a truck in position to load your car up. As for joy riders...well intraduce them to my good freinds smith and wesson

Bill: You need to see the show on either the Discovery or the Learning Channel that highlights what Repo men do as part of their job. Believe me, they can get it EVEN with cars parked up against it. The ONLY way is for you to park 4 cars around it. (so that no side is open)

As far as the second......Great....except that now you can't leave the car.

One idea is to install a CO2 cartridge and plunger under the seat, as you leave the car you release the plunger needle. When the thief enters the car, he sets off the plunger and releases the CO2. If the car doors have been closed up, the thief passes out for a couple hours with a mild coma induced by the CO2, or it freezes his butt or the back of his calves. Either way, he'd have to know that it was C02 to stick around to the end. Otherwise, he's going to have been startled out of the car by the sudden discharge of the gas.

If in addition to that you use a blinking LED behind one of the lenses on your console (Seat Belt; Choke) that you've changed the lettering to : TOXIC GAS

Or even better, one of the "Talking Lady"'s from the SX's that announces as soon as the gas starts "WARNING: DO NOT BREATHE THE GAS, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY, CALL AHEAD BEFORE YOU SEEK MEDICAL HELP, DO NOT CONTACT OTHERS, DO NOT HESITATE, YOUR LIFE IS IN DANGER,

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E

[Ed]

- ED=Why are ignition cutoffs usless?

Most ignition cut off's are wired to the switch on the steering column. Other starter cut off's are wired to the starter. These will work great if the thief tries to "jimmy" the ignition lock. Both are useless once you pop open the hood and hot wire it.

[bemmerguy714]

Most ignition cut off's are wired to the switch on the steering column. Other starter cut off's are wired to the starter. These will work great if the thief tries to "jimmy" the ignition lock. Both are useless once you pop open the hood and hot wire it.

oh ok. Well i guess it would be good to have one anyway. I dont think it would hurt anything would it?

[Ed]

oh ok. Well i guess it would be good to have one anyway. I dont think it would hurt anything would it?

Nope, can't hurt. Unless you forget about it and try to start your car until the battery is dead. BTDT :stupid:

[Fun_in_my_z]

"As far as the second......Great....except that now you can't leave the car."

That would be a problem?

[EScanlon]

....- EScanlon- I do love the idea of the "La Cucaracha" going off. That would be so funny.

In the military they remind you that the first thing to know about Security is that you don't discuss it with anyone.

Now, with that out of the way....

The 1st step to deterring a would be thief is to make it plainly obvious that THIS vehicle is simply NOT worth the hazzle.

A second is to re-inforce that deterrence.

The removal of the steering wheel is to make it obvious to the thief that they will have to be driving with their Vice Grips....not necessarily something you want to be seen using...while driving. This makes it a hazzle.

If they persist and enter the car, then, having the alarm respond in such a manner that it draws attention plays in your favor. The thief is going to want to LEAVE right away....JUST IN CASE.....someone sees him.

The typical, and I am not a criminologist so I'll stand corrected or supported by one, Joy Rider wants to get in quick to leave quick to go have a quick "high" Unfortunately these guys are the most damaging. They don't care if they destroy the car, they're "using it up". If the car gets destroyed but they walk away it was a "good ride".

The car thief is looking to make money on it.

The higher the value of the car, then the more damage they'll do on it, in trying to steal it than if the car is only worth it if it's complete. Although a determined car thief will take it for the quick buck it offers.

In any one of these cases it's their speed of attack and the strength of our defense that details how fast they can get away with it.

An experienced thief or joyrider knows that it's easiest when it's fast. Walk up to the car, open the door, get in, insert key, start it up and leave.

All without being noticed.

If you offer enough "dis-incentive", than the car next to yours, he'll walk past yours.

I knew a guy in a city that will not be mentioned, that used to keep a pair of those pony compressed air tanks in his rig. As he parked it for the night, he'd flatten both tires on that side, and refill them in the morning from the tanks.

Thiefs look to defeat your well thought out plans, but they are limited with what they can do. A spare pair of tires to fit your particular vehicle....that one would take the expertise of a pro, and then you're screwed anyhow.

So, hopefully you get why I'm making light of it.....

E

[zguitar71]

I have been thinking about a quick release steering wheel but if there is a spline in its place when it is removed then the theif can use a set of vice grips for a steering wheel. The removal of the rotor is a good idea and you can also use line locks for the brake system (hidden under the in two different spots for the front and rear). If you use a combo of some of the things listed in the posts mabey the thief will get through some of them but get frustrated and go away before they get all the tricks figured out.

[bemmerguy714]

In the military they remind you that the first thing to know about Security is that you don't discuss it with anyone.

Smart. thats good. thats what i'm doing. Taking advice from all u guys and various other forums and making my own "security system". Thanks for that advice thou. The tire flatnin tecniquie is funny.

I think that if a theif runs into too many problems he will give up. So more than one technique is good

[bemmerguy714]

If you use a combo of some of the things listed in the posts mabey the thief will get through some of them but get frustrated and go away before they get all the tricks figured out.

yup. Thats what i'm thinking

[KDMatt]

Also, you know, most good alarms with shock sensors are adjustable to the kind of sensitivity you want, that way if it's thunderstorming or what not, you can turn the sensitivity down so that you don't wake up the old ladies down the street.

[sideshowbob]

My rear left tire, left to it's own, tends to flaten by itself. I just keep a compressor handy (12v) since I've been to lazy to get it patched. Sounds like my Z came up with it's own theft deterence system....

[theianmonster]

Another idea (I just thought of this), a lot of Formula One cars have hydraulic jacks built into the bottom of the car, for quick tire changes. If you were to install these AND have a kill switch, you could prop the car up just enough for the wheels not to touch and take out the key for the killswitch. Even if they start it, its not going anywhere, but this would be very expensive.