Posted September 6, 200519 yr comment_137141 Today I measured an engine (4 cylinder) with no load.RPM accelerates at approx 4.6 RPM per 1mS,When accelerating the engine between 3400 rpm 5200 rpm it does it in 389ms. Does anyone know how good or bad this is ?Does anyone know how to work out the "1/2MV2 Theory"?.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137144 Does anyone know what he's talking about? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137149 From the look of it he's trying to work out how quick a certain engine revs.Obviously the weight of components in an engine and it's ignition curve will affect how quick it can rev. As for the "1/2MV2 Theory" I have no idea what it is but I'm sure an automotive book would have it. Maybe it's 1/2 x Mass x velocity sqr'd? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137152 I know, I was just trying to be funny. I've looked at some of his other threads and responses and wondered about the relevance of them on this forum but at least they are entertaining. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr Author comment_137161 Performance improvement is a constantly varying science Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137165 smokingwheels your now congesting HybridZ with your non-sense.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137166 Hmmmm, Evil genius at work. Either that or they have intenet access at graylands now (joke) Ok I'll play along T = 2/3<1/2mv2>=? As we know PV=nRT --------- (1) (why did we use this equation for prove above?) As we know. n=N/NA (why we don’t put the P=F/A and volume formula) Put in above equation (1) PV= N/NA RT---------(2) Where R/NA= k (k is Boltzman constant) Equation 2 becomes PV=NkT Or P=NkT/V------------(3) (why we found “Pâ€) As we know. P=2/3*N/NA<1/2mv2>-------------(4) (Why we use this equation we can also use this formula) Comparing 3 and 4. (why we compared) NkT/V=2/3*N/NA<1/2mv2>. We get. kT=2/3<1/2mv2> or T=2/3k<1/2mv2> T=constant<K.E> T Directly Proportional to <K.E> also Defining gravitational potential energy The change in gravitational potential energy of the object-earth system is just another name for the negative value of the work done on an object by the earth. Total energy for object moving under gravity Definition of gravitational potential energy allows us to write down a conservation law for the total energy D (K+Ug)=0 => E=Ug+K=constant ½ mv2+mgh = constant Crucial that U only depends on height! Demo A ball rolls down an inclined slope. After reaching the bottom of the incline, its inertia keeps it moving. It then rolls up an inclined slope. The inclination angles of the two slopes differ. There is negligible friction. Observed Result The maximum heights achieved on the two slopes are the same. Reason: Conservation of energy. Conservative forces Potential energies can only be defined for conservative forces Those forces which do work on a object in moving it from one position to another in such a way that the work done is path independent. eg. gravity, electric forces, spring forces Not friction, air resistance Pendulum demo Energy (K+U) should be constant If pendulum released with zero speed will return to same point (height) with zero speed (ignoring air drag, friction etc) Stopped-pendulum demo Another example: springs … Force F=-kx (Hooke’s law) (x extension) W=-1/2kx2 (last time) Therefore, can define elastic (spring) potential energy U= 1/2kx2 (Horizontal) Spring spring frictionless table x 1/2kx2+1/2mv2=constant Motion ? Imagine displacing mass from equilibrium to x=a – what happens ? 1/2ka2=1/2kx2+1/2mv2 or 1/2mv2= 1/2ka2-1/2kx2 what range does x lie in ? when is v greatest ? describe motion … Graph x u(x)=1/2kx2 a oscillates! motion confined to region below dotted line -a Question What is meaning of the dashed horizontal line in the graph? Hint: What is conserved? Choose a particluar location x between -a and +a. Draw a vertical line through the x value. What is the meaning of the intercept of that line with the graph? What is the meaning of the distance from the intercept to the dashed line? The graph can be used to get the speed v of the mass, at any location x. How can this be done? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137167 I would think that measuring an engine with no load would be impractical in a real world application. Isn't it dangerous for the engine as well?The load you attach to an engine will change any of your results. Different loads = different results = what are you trying to accomplish? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137172 ........what are you trying to accomplish?What is he trying to accomplish? And does it really belong here? This isn't a science think tank and the only connection this has with Z cars is that they also have an engine. I can put up with this as long as you all can put up with it. Rock on! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137174 Different loads = different results It was a small load so he did it by hand! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr Author comment_137175 ok well ive got 2 engines of the same size but different modsIf i compare the noload acceleration rates i might have sum idear of power output.I am recording anything i can so that when i put my copmuter (computer)Into control the engine timing I can compare before and after effects.note: engine is protected with my adjustible 2 stage rev limiter ok so ive been doing little hooningrev limit stop is set at 5500rev limit soft is set at 5300when traveling from sum traffic lights to 100 km/h signI have found taking off but taking good care of the clutch im doing 100 km/h.I have found using launch control @3500 RPM im doing 110 km/h with tools+ passenger.Cleaned out tools and passenger using launch control @3500 RPM im now doing 120 km/h to the same point.so that 20 km/h is gained over the same distance by using the engines peak toque to start off and unloading extra mass, when i shift gears my foot does not leave the floor, its hard to get used to though, just change quickly not a slam approx 100 kg? car is 1060kg + 75kg I have to go and get a rough distance measurment to work it out.I think if you want to accelerate twice as fast you need 4 times the powerbecause you have to get half the distance in half the time.thats how i understand it Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
September 6, 200519 yr comment_137182 Your useless ramblings have what to do with Classic Z cars? Other than the fact that Z cars have engines? You are clogging up this site with your theories, your attempts to justify something that no one is asking for, and in general, your crap. I DON'T KNOW WHY MIKE HASN'T KILLED THIS THREAD ALONG WITH YOUR OTHERS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY HE HASN'T BANNED YOU SINCE YOU CONTRIBUTE NO Z RELATED CONTENT TO THIS SITE. I WONDER HOW MANY IGNORE LISTS YOU ARE ON. I WONDER WHAT YOU ARE ON.DONE. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17167-acceleration-of-and-engine-against-time/#findComment-137182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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