1970 Fairlady Z on ebay

[MikeW]

I'm curious about this also Ben.

26th-Z, can you please point this aftermarket and replacement riff-raff out to me just in case I come in to a few bucks and want to negotiate with this guy.

It's hard to say since the pictures are so bad. The following are apparent: rear louvers, wheels off a 280ZX, and the front air dam. In fairness, those are all easy to change out. The carpet doesn't look right and the paint scheme is certainly not original.

[v12horse]

The reason why I feel that it is a ZL is because of the bumpers. However this could be an easy thing to change or add, but a ZL had the rubber molding on all four corners and no over-ride bumpers. A base model Fairlady Z did not have the rubber. I should have stated that it could be a ZL model and not that it was. Also, there appears to be a clock present; the ZL had a clock, but the base model did not. I believe it was an option for the base model to have a rally clock, but I am not positive. I will be more careful about my wording in the future. Also, not that this would have anything to really do with it, as rare cars are found from time to time, but there are much less base models than ZL's from what I have read. Please don't curse me on this as I have made a mistake.

-Ben

p.s. The trim below the doors appears to be metal. More riff raff.

[26th-Z]

Mike pretty much describes it. Like my term, riff-raff? It's all in fun - Enjoy the Ride, eh? I would look at the car before I considered buying it, too bad the photos are so lousy, but $4500 isn't a bad price for an early Fairlady IMO. It all depends on what blows your dress up - I guess. I would like to have an early Fairlady.

Ben,

I didn't realize the bumper rubbers were distinctive between the S30 and the S30S. I have these great pictures in an expensive Fairlady-I book and they both show solid chrome bumpers with no rubbers!?! We were having a banter about this subject at a Z picnic extravaganza yesterday. Remember one of the guys with me at the convention last year - Rick? He has a silver 260Z and he has been converting bumpers. He bought a new front and new rubbers, but the bumper is not drilled for the rubbers. Makes me wonder if the new bumpers available these days are really NOS leftovers - the only ones remaining - or new manufacture. The rally clock is listed as an option in the 1970 sales catalog. I thought they all came with the basic clock. Is there a difference between the heater console face plates of the S30 and the HLS30? Do the Fairlady consoles have fan switch (hi - low) indicators molded in the plastic?

Chris

[Az-Fairlady]

I was watching it too, but he answered one email

and it was real vague.

He doesnt even mention if the car "runs" or not and

how well etc.

He does mention its needed total restoration or something like that, and to me that means it needs Everything from bumper to bumper.

I wouldnt of minded having another one, but his pics showed nothing about where the rust was either. Specifically where and how bad.

The 0 feedback wasnt helping either.

[HS30-H]

......but a ZL had the rubber molding on all four corners and no over-ride bumpers. A base model Fairlady Z did not have the rubber. I should have stated that it could be a ZL model and not that it was. Also, there appears to be a clock present; the ZL had a clock, but the base model did not. I believe it was an option for the base model to have a rally clock, but I am not positive. I will be more careful about my wording in the future. Also, not that this would have anything to really do with it, as rare cars are found from time to time, but there are much less base models than ZL's from what I have read. Please don't curse me on this as I have made a mistake.

Don't apologise to anybody Ben - I agree with you completely, this car is much more likely to be a Z-L ( 'S30' ) than an entry-level no-frills Fairlady Z ( 'S30-S' ).

You are correct about the bumpers. The Z-L had the rubber trim from the Factory and the Z did not, but the rubber trim and over-riders could be ordered as an option. The Z-L came from the Factory with a clock, but the Z had the super-rare clock blanking plate from the Factory. But again, dealer option choices and later replacement could change the way the car came from the Factory.

The other identifiably Z-L specific thing on this eBay car is the presence of stainless front and rear window runner garnish pieces. Z-L came with these from the Factory but the Z did not. Could have been added later in the car's life but more likely original I'd have thought.

One of the other swaying factors is that the base-level S30-S is so rare in comparison to the Z-L, and always was. This car being what I call a "G.I. Bride" ( like so many of the Fairladies outside Japan ) it is also much more likely to be a Z-L than an S30-S. The S30-S was particularly austere, and any serviceman bothering to take Fairlady home with him would have tended to favour the relatively luxurious Z-L over the S30-S.

I hope somebody saves the car and takes some of the gee-gaws off it.

By the way, my project base car ( also a Fairlady Z-L ) has VIN number 'S30-03761' - precisely 80 numbers older than the eBay car...........

Cheers,

Alan T.

[Az-Fairlady]

Don't apologise to anybody Ben - I agree with you completely, this car is much more likely to be a Z-L ( 'S30' ) than an entry-level no-frills Fairlady Z ( 'S30-S' ).

You are correct about the bumpers. The Z-L had the rubber trim from the Factory and the Z did not, but the rubber trim and over-riders could be ordered as an option. The Z-L came from the Factory with a clock, but the Z had the super-rare clock blanking plate from the Factory. But again, dealer option choices and later replacement could change the way the car came from the Factory.

The other identifiably Z-L specific thing on this eBay car is the presence of stainless front and rear window runner garnish pieces. Z-L came with these from the Factory but the Z did not. Could have been added later in the car's life but more likely original I'd have thought.

One of the other swaying factors is that the base-level S30-S is so rare in comparison to the Z-L, and always was. This car being what I call a "G.I. Bride" ( like so many of the Fairladies outside Japan ) it is also much more likely to be a Z-L than an S30-S. The S30-S was particularly austere, and any serviceman bothering to take Fairlady home with him would have tended to favour the relatively luxurious Z-L over the S30-S.

I hope somebody saves the car and takes some of the gee-gaws off it.

By the way, my project base car ( also a Fairlady Z-L ) has VIN number 'S30-03761' - precisely 80 numbers older than the eBay car...........

Cheers,

Alan T.

the VIN on my 71 Z/L is 06448

HS30-8 where can I see pics of your car ?

[HS30-H]

the VIN on my 71 Z/L is 06448

HS30-8 where can I see pics of your car ?

In my 'Gallery' on this site. Look for the '432R Replica Project' section. Some silly new pics added just today.

[Az-Fairlady]

cool, I just realized you are in the UK doh.

about how many Fairladys are known to be in your area?

[HS30-H]

Well, there's probably just a handful of S30-series Fairladies here in the UK. Perhaps around five or six at the most.

[NZeder]

Sorry if this is slight hi-jack. I just this weekend picked up a S31 for my Dad. This is a S31-S by the look as its trim is as HS30-H and others have stated. It has no clock just a blanking cover, no rear window de-mister/heater element. It has a factory L20e engine and 5 speed which appear to be the close gear set (by the lack of rev change between gears). It is a bit rough but I guess you expect that for a 25+ year old car. I have no idea on the year it was manufactured as the car was imported into NZ in 1988 and the papers state 1979 (I thought Nissan stop making them in 78). But going by the chassis number S31-005360 I would say it is a 76 or very late 75. I can't say anything about the bumpers as this car is fitted with a G-Nose 5 piece replica and someone at some point changed the rear bumper (and incorrectly fitted a 2+2 bumper which does not fit very well at all). But I have found/purchased a correct rear bumper (that is one with no rubber or holes - but painted black)

[v12horse]

That is awesome Mike. I only know of one S30-S here in the states, but hopefully there are more. The S31 is a great car as well. I got a chance to look at one close up this past summer and it was a great car. However, it was a ZL. Congratulations to you and your Dad for getting the car. Please post some pictures of your new Fairlady Z.

-Ben

p.s. I am so glad that there are a lot of people here that appreciate the home market cars. It brings a smile to my face.

<-- Ben

[NZeder]

Congratulations to you and your Dad for getting the car. Please post some pictures of your new Fairlady Z.

Thanks Ben. Pic posted in my gallery here and on my website.