check out these wheels

[zhead240]

the zed ain't bad either.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4587298182&fromMakeTrack=true

nice rims-drooool.

all that work and he left the flat tops on.

[Arne]

Nope, they don't do anything for me. Look like something you'd see on a Honda. Oh wait - that's because they are Honda wheels with spacers.

[Zrush]

What a beautiful car. But the engine bay is just a mess. With my crappy computer not all the pictures loaded (red x), so maybe I missed a upgraded or at least cleaned engine. I can say that the engine compartment on all my z's are as clean as the exterior on the car.

Vicky

[Go240Zags]

Gotta admit I'm not much into the wagon wheel look, but the paint is shiney, the interior seems nice and the seats look comfortable, but have to agree the engine bay is a mess.

[SavannahZ]

The car is good looking. Maybe it's because I'm used to seeing my Z with fourteens, but I don't think the eighteens look very good from the side. They do fill in the wells nicely from the front and rear angled view. Those seats do look incredibly comfortable!

I am suprised to see how dirty the engine is...and those carbs...

[viparz]

Nope, gotta go dish on the wheels. Nice interior though, anyone know what kind of seats they are, they look great.

Yeah, that engine bay..........it's terrible, looks like it has been completely neglected.....and those carbs.....

[sblake01]

There isn't much I like about it except maybe the shiny paint job. The rims don't really do it for me, the seats belong in some other car, not a Z, the vents are filled in, what's up with the front end below the grille?, no bumper, no side markers, no effort shown in the engine compartment considering all of the other claims of what has been done to the car. I could go on but I really don't like to critique other peoples cars but you've posted one here that is quite critique-able. The person selling it for the 'older non computer savvy' owner at least has done some reading.

[Fun_in_my_z]

Ill pass ty. Rewinds for me

[Ed]

I too thought it looked like a decent car until I got to the engine bay. :sick: OMG, WTF???

[Carolina Z]

Was looking at this and thinking , ya know this is a really good looking Z, exterior , not only the paint but the redesigned front end, great looking interior, good looking wheels and new tires AND THEN THE ENGINE BAY PICTURE, what in gods name was the guy thinking of by not cleaning the motor as well as cleaning up the hoses and wiring, man what a disappointment, wonder if it even runs. Cant believe that someone would do all that was done to the car and then not complete the work by detailing the engine bay

[Arne]

Off topic comment deleted. Sorry.

[EScanlon]

GEEEZ! Does anyone want to check and see if he put valve caps on the tires? Or did he use purified air in the tires? Or .....

After last weeks fun, after this group berated a person's car, do we REALLY need to do it again?

That you would do it differently....that's great. Is that because of having been exposed to this highly-critical group, or because you've learned better from having been a member of this group?

Face it guys, the belittling that is going on is not only pointless, it comes off as "mine's better than yours!"

The Flat Top Carbs may not be the item of choice....amongst those of us who know and want better performance. But face it, the manufacturer did in fact, SELL a whole bunch of units with them. They MUST have worked or the cars would never have rolled off the lot. Are there better alternatives? You bet, but that's what a HUGE part of this hobby is all about.

That the original owner did not know and apparently did not do anything with the carbs may be as simple as he doesn't do his own mechanical work. Additionally if they're working .... they why replace them if you're satisfied with their performance? Last week a car was being berated for having had the distributor replaced now it's that the owner did NOT replace the carburators. Does it strike anyone as ~ PLAUSIBLE ~ that the owner wanted to keep the engine original?

Sure there's dirt and grime in the engine bay. If it had been operating room clean someone would have spoken up and said that THAT was suspicious.

Could it ~possibly~ be that the guy doesn't know ANYTHING about engines and just knows to NOT touch inside the engine compartment? Now, would it be plausible that he would pressure wash an engine that, WE as a group, know can be cantankerous and difficult AND doesn't like getting wet?

So let's lay off the dismissive denigrating comments. Unless YOUR car is ~PERFECT~ and few here are anywhere close, let's give the guy an item that we all want....."The Benefit of the Doubt."

That aside, although it is extremely odd to have such a difference between an exterior that looks recently cared for and an engine compartment that begets the use of gloves, it is entirely plausible.

When I was refreshing cars for $ while in the service, I had one simple rule:I didn't touch anything inside the engine compartment that wasn't DIRECTLY related to the paint job at hand, and you had had the mechanical problems attended to BEFORE I worked on your car. Since several of these cars were external paint only, the engine bay concerned me only in making sure that it wouldn't vent dust and oil. Since many of these jobs were done on a materials + basis, I didn't try to up the cost.

Personally, I like the intent and general direction of what he tried to do. But as the saying says "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

Reducing the size of the opening by using the front center valance as a filler is ingenious, but it sadly mis-shapen for the surrounding metal.

Heck, it's entirely possible that the car is some old guy's who inherited someone's "project" and is doing his best to recover something.

So, let's discuss those items we don't care for on other vehicles, but let's not denigrate the people or their thoughts.

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