December 13, 20186 yr comment_563691 You show two different hardware sets, Kats. Which one do you think is most correct? Black screws or plated screws?I'll have to dig mine out but I think all mine were silver not black. The washers could have been cad plated but I don't think so.Sent from my [device_name] using http://Classic Zcar Club mobile Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-563691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 13, 20186 yr comment_563706 update: I located some thicker style washers and will recheck screw size when I get the washers. The washer is a m5 and looking at Kats pictures and the size of the seat guard holes, the screw looks like a #8 x 3/4. I used a 9/64 drill bit for the new holes. Edited December 14, 20186 yr by nix240z Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-563706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 14, 20186 yr comment_563718 Hi Chris! Good question, Mike is correct, The balck seat doesn’t have original , I just bought the screws and the washers in my town ( like a home depo ) . My blue seat has the originals, but the washer was plated , I like gold finish but it is not the original finish. Here is an answer, you can see originals . The two really bad shape early seats have a silver screw and a silver washer. The detail can tell you they are not obtainable nowadays, the shape of the head of the screw is something different, and the washer looks a little bit thicker than currently available at a home depo . And in March or April 1971 ? A set of new seat belts and hook were applied,I guess that time was a change of the seat too , the seat bottom would have lost the guards and , the seat back lost the hook which transferred to the body side interior trim . And I assume the change of the seat back would be made at this point , “ fat seat back “ replaced by “ narrow ( slim ) seat back “ . It is going to be interesting that everyone look into the seat bottom frame , if you find the holes for the guard , is it March or April 1971 or later ? By the way , an early seat back has a hole for the seat belt hook , the hole can be seen both side right and left for the efficiency of the production. I will check my seat bottom frame if it has holes for the guard both left and right. Kats Edited December 14, 20186 yr by kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-563718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 1, 20196 yr comment_564951 Kats and nix240z annd others, What type of material (canvas, linen, duck cloth, etc.) was used for the light green material? This material appears in the photos that accompanies the the three (3) rubber straps. Thanks, Keith Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-564951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 1, 20196 yr comment_564979 15 hours ago, zed2 said: Kats and nix240z annd others, What type of material (canvas, linen, duck cloth, etc.) was used for the light green material? This material appears in the photos that accompanies the the three (3) rubber straps. Thanks, Keith I visited the local fabric shop and purchased some ribbon that was close in width and color. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-564979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565159 Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve ! Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me . Kats Edited January 4, 20196 yr by kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565162 I will have my blue seats re- trimed again , Mr. Sudo offered me that making my blue seats fat seat back , now they are appeared in slim type . Using an extra blue vinyl which he gave me is going to be wonderful. I think so too , my 03/70 car should have a fat seat back. At that time ( in 2003 ) Mr.Sudo was not aware that because he just got an order from a car shop “ restoration of blue Datsun 240Zseats “ without knowing it is going to be installed for 03/70 car . The black ones are recently restored for my 01/70 Z432 , fat seat back . Kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565165 2 hours ago, kats said: Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve ! Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me . Kats 2 hours ago, kats said: Thanks Kats for pictures. I believe the washer in a M5 thick washer and a M5x16mm self tapping screw as seen in my pictures. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565169 if you are interested in a set of seat guards please send me a email at orders@240zrubberparts.com . I am trying to get a count before I put the reproduction sets up for sale on the website. . I know they are not cheap and I was reluctant to take on this project because of the price. I have invested a lot of time and money on this project. sets are $200 plus $16.25 shipping USPS tracking and $200 insurance medium flat rate box. outside the country shipping $72 USPS tracking and $200 insurance medium flat rate box. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565174 Steve , I sent a message.I buy two sets of the guards. Thanks ! Kats Edited January 4, 20196 yr by kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 4, 20196 yr comment_565175 Nice screws and washers!! Kats Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 5, 20196 yr comment_565265 On 1/3/2019 at 8:57 PM, kats said: Hi Keith , I was going to ask same thing to Steve as I also want the light green cloth for my seat restoration . Great work Steve ! Here is a picture of the screws and washers for the plastic guard, they look special for me . Kats Kats, I have obtained a sample of a light blue/green cloth. Do you still have the original cloth on your seat bottoms to confirm the color match? (If so, I would mail you a small sample for verification purposes.) Keith Edited January 5, 20196 yr by zed2 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/17941-1st-gen-seats/?&page=6#findComment-565265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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