January 20, 200619 yr comment_152727 FWIW. I'm the guy with the blown sciatic nerves (pain all the time) who still wants to drive his 73 240. The old Sears Steadiriders were shot so I had to fix it or get rid of the car. I took a chance and ordered the KYB's from Ebay and I am happy with the results. The ride is still firm but there is a certain edge that has been taken off the bumps in the road that really aggravated my back pain before. I think the improvement is due to the fact that the gas in the Kyb has lifted the car a bit and besides riding on the springs it also rides somewhat on the kyb gas. It definitely sits about an inch higher on the wheels. So bottom line. The 240 has become a daily driver again. I hope that gas lasts.Maybe this all the placebo affect. But for now I don't dread the pain of getting in the 240. Right now I've got some older Summitmoto 60 profile tires and I'm thinking of going for a set of stock Kumhos. I think a taller profile will give me a little more flex and softness. Then if I want to autocross I can put the 60 profiles back on. I've got all kinds of various Z and ZX wheels to choose from.Besides that I'm collecting new soft rubber from VBS that I'll be installing. I got some stuff that I'll be sending back. Just because the description says street use doens't mean its soft oem style rubber.Getting old is a pain but I suppose it beats the alternative.Hope you enjoy your ride.Don Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-152727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 20, 200619 yr comment_152728 I am thinking that I should order the progressive rate Tokico spings that are designed to suit the shocks to get the best of both worlds but again I have no idea what the rate of those springs are.Does anyone have experience with these springs? Would anyone recommend going for them? I am thinking that those springs would have been engineered for the perfect balance between street and race settings for those shocks.The Tokico springs sold in the US have a progressive spring for the front and a linear spring for the rear. They lower the car a lot, and I for one question having progressives on one end and not the other. Not a big fan of progressive springs anyway, but it seems like the front end would be doing all sorts of weird undulations in a high speed bumpy corner. Sounds like a good way to swap ends to me. I think if I recall the spring rates on the Tokicos are 140/160 or thereabouts. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-152728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 21, 200619 yr comment_152879 I have been tempted to go for the Tockico strut/spring combo that you see on Ebay. BUT if the springs are really progressive im not so sure. What is everyones opinion about the Suspension techniques springs? I see Shox.com has a set for 179 dollars. Would that make a good combo with the Non-illumina Tockico struts? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-152879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 200619 yr comment_153722 I'm in the market too so I called Tokico last night for a definitive answer: for 240's they are progressive front, linear rear. Spring rates are 120/140. The tech guru/champion racer in our local club isn't crazy about progressive springs, he likes the ST springs with regular KYB struts, but those old KYB's are NLA :-\ I was gonna go with the Tokico HP package but now I don't know.... maybe those repro Euro springs?-Ken P. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-153722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 200619 yr comment_153727 Be aware that the Euro springs aren't supposed to lower your car much, if any at all. I've seen references to 10 mm lower in front. For my purposes, that's fine. But other people may want it lower than that. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-153727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 200619 yr comment_153728 I just don't see the need for having adjustables because I'll be only driving on the street and don't plan on taking any corners at 60 mph, especially where I live. So, I'm just in the market for a smooth ride. I thought I read somehwere that the KYB non adjusts have a smoother ride than the Tokico's. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me for this type of driving. I'd like to order the springs and struts all at the same time so I'd rather get this right the first time....aye? I just did this last fall...Eibach Pro-Kit springs with Tokico blues...I originally had KYBs and a set of Contour Springs ...the springs were a little too stiff for the KYBs and blew them out ultimately...consider the performance of the spring you buy and the strut cartridges as a set...this set up is sweet for me, mine is a daily driver so a smooth ride is a necessity. It's smooth in normal driving conditions but take a sweeper exit ramp or quick switch back and the progressive spring rates with the damping of the Tokicos kick in...it's almost too good ... like on rails... I have to remember to watch my speed. The drop is not too aggressive only 1" but with 15" rims and 60 profile tires the wheels tuck into the arches nicely....check my gallery...not too hard on the wallet either...if you're shopping Tokicos on ebay beware of jdmwerks, good prices but the seller is a real p***k (v.o.e here...he took my money with buy it now, did not answer any of my emails in which I repeatedly left my contact info, I was on the road on business and my suspension was in pieces at the shop, when I posted neutral feedback, he blocked me from future auctions)...check his feedback profile there's a common theme, caveat emptor...www.shox.com is good for Eibachs...but shop around, don't be afraid to work local sources against the internet for your price...good luck with it Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-153728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 200619 yr comment_153737 I just did this last fall...Eibach Pro-Kit springs with Tokico blues...I originally had KYBs and a set of Contour Springs ...the springs were a little too stiff for the KYBs and blew them out ultimately...consider the performance of the spring you buy and the strut cartridges as a set...this set up is sweet for me, mine is a daily driver so a smooth ride is a necessity. It's smooth in normal driving conditions but take a sweeper exit ramp or quick switch back and the progressive spring rates with the damping of the Tokicos kick in...it's almost too good ... like on rails... I have to remember to watch my speed. The drop is not too aggressive only 1" but with 15" rims and 60 profile tires the wheels tuck into the arches nicely....check my gallery...not too hard on the wallet either...if you're shopping Tokicos on ebay beware of jdmwerks, good prices but the seller is a real p***k (v.o.e here...he took my money with buy it now, did not answer any of my emails in which I repeatedly left my contact info, I was on the road on business and my suspension was in pieces at the shop, when I posted neutral feedback, he blocked me from future auctions)...check his feedback profile there's a common theme, caveat emptor...www.shox.com is good for Eibachs...but shop around, don't be afraid to work local sources against the internet for your price...good luck with it I'll agree with that, he never answered any of my emails so I didn't buy anything from him. Now I'm really glad I didn't. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-153737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 28, 200619 yr comment_153738 Hey Gav, yeah for you to "ring him up" on his non-published phone number would have been futile. If you had any troubles you would have been S.O.L. The price is good but it's crap shoot service in my book...BTW always like to see the wheels on your ride...did you post spec on those?:beard: Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-153738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 31, 200619 yr Author comment_154124 OK...Looks like I'm going to go with the KYB gas and Suspension Tech springs. Seems like all replacement springs lower the car no matter what and I believe the ST's are only about 10% stiffer then stock.Next stop..rotor and drum replacements...Guess I'll have to update the website...It needs to be re-worked anyway. That was my first attempt at HTML, pretty sorry I know.www.project280z.com Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-154124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 31, 200619 yr comment_154125 Are you going to get the KYB GR-2's? I haven't seen "regular" KYB's or KYB AGX's (adjustable) available for the 240 anywhere. Are they available for the 280?FYI the cheapest price I found on ST springs was JC Whitney, ~ $160... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-154125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 31, 200619 yr Author comment_154129 Going with the GR-2's...Try summitracing.com. I think I saw the GR-2's there for $40 each, front and rear. Yes, they have them for the 280 also. I saw the springs for $160 also on another site but can't remember where it was.... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-154129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
January 31, 200619 yr comment_154131 My GR-2's are working fine so far. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/18601-back-to-kyb-vs-tokico/?&page=2#findComment-154131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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