Anybody up for a new Z shirt? PART TWO!

[240ZX]

Mikey, It doesn't appear to me that the quaulity of this artwork is anywhere near the quaulity you have done previously...at least what I saw on the link you posted. Just my 2 cents worth!

Tom

[Alfadog]

It's quite obviously "frenzee"... though I'm not sure its necessary. I think generally the word "SAMPLE" scrawled across the image isn't usually part of the artwork..........

But I agree with the general consensus in that you don't really need text. Maybe just the Z.

And the rear window looks like it's a 2+2 !!!

[Virto]

And the rear window looks like it's a 2+2 !!!

I noticed that myself.

Awesome design, but not so big on the text. Makes it look like a hair-band fan's shirt or maybe a late 80s beer shirt.

[zbane]

Maybe it would help to know why you wanted to develop another T-shirt. Are you trying to make a statement? The old one, IMO, was to spread the word about this club.

TomoHawk, my good man, perhaps this thread will help explain the motives.

david

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22946

Very nice design, I think either white or black would do well for material color, maybe even grey.

[TomoHawk]

Sorry, David, but I don't think that other thread (which I read earlier) explains what the shirt is supposed to "say." It's OK, if he wants to make a little money, but what's the motif of the graphic? Racing? Restoration? Zs suck? Sex in my Z? what? The old T-shirt was promoting this website, and I think it did a great job of that.

Anybody can draw a car on a shirt, but it needs to be "different." It needs to say something to you. Otherwise, a white shirt with a barcode & the word "shirt" on it would be fine to sell to make some bux.

mikey, I like your graphic talent. Don't take anybody's criticisms personally. This shirt will turn out great when we get this question answered & things get focused. This is basically a can of worms.

[zbane]

My bad, sorry TomoHawk. I read your questions in a different way than you intended. You've certainly got a good point about the shirt needing to be "different," and I think it will be.

Perhaps if it were a Z beating a generic car in a racing situation (at the track)-the loser would be in the background, obscured by some smoke (burning oil, baby), but visibly behind.

Just an idea.

david

[TomoHawk]

Like a ricer??

"You can't smoke in my car, but my car can smoke the competition."

[zbane]

You got it.

[Zedman]

I'm lovin' the way this thread is turning out, even though it's not exactly what I had in mind. Here's some stuff about it:

1) There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Classic Z Club shirt. In fact, I have got to get off my duff and order one soon. My whole idea as I mentioned in the other thread was to try to get some savings going so I can get me another 240Z, and since the Classic Z Club shirt is such a good rendering with a real photo of a Z I figured I would have to go in another direction if I was going to try to introduce another Z shirt to the market, so I went for the caricature version, which is what I like to do best anyway. I know there are also other caricature versions available, but at least in this style there is room for artistic difference, where in photos, the only differences are mainly the angle of the shot and the colour and trim of the cars.

2) As for the 'frenZee' thing, it was just a play on words that I was trying out, because I like car shirts with that kind of thing on them. In any case, it would look just as good with 240Z in the background and I am going to sketch up one like that to see for myself. I'm not sure how real I can make the logo look without having to worry about what Mr. Datsun () has to say about it. I am new to this stuff and not really sure about copyright laws. Maybe in a club this size there would be someone who could offer me some thoughts on that matter.

3) There won't be another car in the picture. To me, a Z is the thing and yep, you could show it racing some other car, but that's not really where I want it to go. These are my favourite cars and this idea is just to put my version of my favourite car out there. Besides, if I had to show it racing some other car, I would want to make the other car so far behind that the design would have to wrap around to the back side of the shirt ( again!).

4) As for the "SAMPLE" shadow letters, I just wanted to make the design a little more difficult to copy for anyone who had the devious inclination to do so. Up here in Canada, we have a thing called a 'Poor Man's Copyright', which is to mail a copy of your work to yourself in a registered letter, which you never unseal once you have received it and signed for it. That way, if you did have to prove in a court of law that it was your design, any other person trying to use it would have to prove that they had created it before the date on your registered letter. It's a crude and cheap system that also works for recordings of original musical compositions and stuff, and I don't think you guys have that down in the USA, so I just thought I'd go for the shadow letters. Sorry if it made the design harder to decifer. I am just paranoid a bit, because I sold 5 or 6 of my original prints to a guy at a HotWheels convention who mentioned after having bought the pictures that he had a t-shirt shop up in Alaska, and I have always wondered if my pictures had made it onto some shirts up north without my knowing about it.

Anyway, enough wordy meandering. I just had a little too much time to sit at the keyboard this morning, and I hope my wanderings don't lessen any interest that any of you would have in the shirt once it's done.

-Mikey

[Blue Meanie]

What about:

Z,

nuff said.

[TomoHawk]

But I agree with the general consensus in that you don't really need text. Maybe just the Z.

If it's not absolutely obvious what kind of car it is, you DO need some kind of text, unless you want people to be asking you "What kind of car is that on your shirt?" Since caricature's purpose is to exaggerate to give a comic effect, the accompanying text is needed. Or you could change the graphic to include the Z logo.

[Mr Camouflage]

The picture is obviuosly and unmistakably a Z to me. No text needed.

But then again, some people cant tell the difference between a 2 seater and a 2+2 without looking in the back to see if theres a seat there.