Hey guys, my 240 Z has a production date of 11, 1970, wouldn't this be a 71 model? You can see the serial # below in my signature.

What does the title say?

Check out the info over @ zhome.com.

http://zhome.com/History/1970or1971.html

Neal,

I would say from a production standpoint (Nissa's perspective) your car is a 1970 however, from a titling (DMV, etc...) standpoint it is probably handled as a 1971. My car straddles that same line as it is an 08/70 production

(HLS30-08323) and it was first sold in September of 1970. By the time father sent the car to daughter in San Francisco for graduation present it was titled as a 1971.

No real solution but I prefer to refer to mine as a '70.

I've got # 14160 and I call it a 1970 but I'm sure it was a model year 1971.

Ain't got no title, but the inspection sticker (Texas 03) says 1970.

I'm sure that we have an expert or two on this subject. I'm not but from my experience the cut off date for a production of a model year for most manufactures is around July or August. I would bet the Z in question is a 71.

My two cents.

It could go either way as this is about the time of year when the year model was being changed. There is a lot of discussion on this topic so I'd recommend a quick search and start reading if you are interested in this aspect of the Z history.

I don't know about that, my 1970 was built in 1969, so the production year for the 1970 would have ended much earlier than November of 1970. My 72 was built, I believe, in August of 72 and had a few of the 1973 features due to it being one of the last of the 1972's built. I am relatively sure that a 11/70 is welll beyound the production change over date and would make the car a 71. JLP

I don't know about that, my 1970 was built in 1969, so the production year for the 1970 would have ended much earlier than November of 1970. My 72 was built, I believe, in August of 72 and had a few of the 1973 features due to it being one of the last of the 1972's built. I am relatively sure that a 11/70 is welll beyound the production change over date and would make the car a 71. JLP

If you think so then you need to look at the series I features that are on many of the '71 (series II) models. It's not that clear cut as has been pointed out and discussed heavily on this board in the past. My 10/70 production date is a '70 with all of the series I spec parts/features. I know of others that have 10/70 production cars that are titled as '71. The same goes for 11/70 production cars and even some 9/70 production cars. It had a LOT to do with shipping, port delays, and what the dealer decided to do (i.e. call it a '71 so they could charge the new higher price). Do a search on this forum and also read up on zhome and you will find all kind of information on this topic. Also, there is a thread on here where people have listed their VINs and some included production dates, this is a good way to see how blured the line is.

Hey guys, my 240 Z has a production date of 11, 1970, wouldn't this be a 71 model? You can see the serial # below in my signature.

For the US and Canada:

Series I Datsun 240-Z's were produced in calendar years 1969, 1970 and 1971.

Series I Datsun 240-Z's were sold, and titles were issued as "Model Year" 1969, 1970 and 1971.

Prior to March of 1971 Automobile Titles were defined by State Laws in all 50 States. Thus the recorded "Model Year" was simply reported by the selling Dealer, when they requested that a State Automobile Title be issued, based on presenting the Manufacturer's Statement of Origin (MSO).

Because the Series I Datsun 240-Z meet all U.S. Federal Government Requirements for calendar year 1969, 1970 and Pre-March 1971, the Authorized Datsun Dealers could sell and title them as any of the three.

Nissan Called the Series II 240-Z's the "Late Model Year 1971"

Series II Datsun 240-Z's were produced in calendar year 1971 and were sold and titled as "Model Year" 1971 only (here in America at least)

Because the U.S. Federal Government increased and/or changed both Emissions and Safety Standards for cars produced prior to certain dates with calendar years 1971, 72, 73 - and because Nissan Motors implemented the required changes in compliance with the required dates - year by year... the "Late Model Year 1971" {Series II}, 1972 {Series III} and 1973 {Series IV} cars could only be legally sold/titled as those "Model Years" per Federal Law.

Series I Datsun 240-Z's sold in the USA and Canada were produced between Oct. 1969 and Jan. 1971. Regular Production cars - HLS30-00016 though HLS30 020390 have been recorded so far.

Series II Datsun 240-Z's sold in the USA and Canada were produced between Jan. 1971 and Sept. 1971. Regular Production cars HLS30 21477 though HLS30 046520 have been recorded so far as being Series II cars.

Series III Datsun 240-Z's were produced between Sept. 1971 and Aug. 1972. Regular Production cars HLS30 046636 though HLS30 100262 have been recorded so far.

Series IV Datsun 240-Z's sold in the USA and Canada were produced between Aug. 1972 and Aug. 1973. Regular Production cars HLS30 120031 though HLS30 172767 have been recorded so far.

Interest Note:

260Z - RLS30 00020 was built in July of 1973, a month before production of the 240-Z's ended.

FWIW,

Carl B.

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Series I Datsun 240-Z's sold in the USA and Canada were produced between Oct. 1969 and Jan. 1971. Regular Production cars - HLS30-00016 though HLS30 020390 have been recorded so far.

Hi Carl,

You might want to update ( as if you don't have enough on your mind without critiques from the cheap seats) the series 1 cars to include mine, IZCC#12324. I am listed on your web site as an original owner of HLS30-20419, a 1/71 series 1 car. Thanks, Carl.

Dan