Warning: May Offend Z Owners

[cygnusx1]

Wow, killing Z cars and resurrecting threads from 2002! ;-) Welcome to the site!

Edited January 19, 2011 by cygnusx1

[26th-Z]

This is the first time I have seen this thread and what I liked was the photograph collection of the cut sections revealing the way the body shell was constructed. We have many conversations over the last few years about how the "chassis" was constructed. The web site photos describe some nice detail.

[psdenno]

Wow, killing Z cars and resurrecting threads from 2002! ;-) Welcome to the site!

Not wishing to start an argument or debate - just looking for consensus. What is the statute of limitations on reviving a long sleeping forum thread? And why is it a "bad" thing? Granted nine years is a long time for this one, but as they say, everything old is new again.

Quite honestly, I've seen threads that are a day old that shouldn't be resuscitated.

Dennis

[26th-Z]

I don't think there are limitations, but you're going to get a smart-arse comment if you do! There's nothing bad about bringing up an archive if you have something to add. Actually, it's better that way - keeps all the info in one place / thread.

[kenz240z]

Perhaps a case by case basis? In this instance, I found it interesting that Gary posted his position for why he cut up the car 8 years ago. Kind of brings closure to the whole thing. And as 26th-Z points out, the various cross sections where the body was cut do provide a good insight into the construction of the car.

[EScanlon]

There's nothing bad about bringing up an archive(d post) if you have something to add.

There's your basic rule of thumb. The key being that it should ADD or CLARIFY the information in the thread.

The "bad" revives are the ones that are done with "Me too!" or "I have a similar problem that I still can't solve."

Posting that a particular thread or post was the answer for the problem you were working on can fall on both sides of the line... sometimes it's a good revive, sometimes not.

Then there are those who feel reviving a thread from yesterday deserves a bonehead award. If you had been here then, then you wouldn't need to repeat it today.... :stupid:

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[lonetreesteve]

This reminds me of when I was a senior in high school and I bought a '66 Pontiac GTO with a '67 400 GTO engine that was a little beat up for $200.00. My '67 GTO's engine was burning oil and needed a different engine. A friend of my brother's was pretty mechanically-inclined and volunteered to help me pull the the bad engine out of my '67 and install the good engine from the '66. I offered him the '66 GTO for his help. I also sold the bad engine out of my '67 for about a $100 to $125.00 or so if I remember correctly. The kid got kind of excited and said that he was going to make the '66 GTO his "Saturday night hot rod". I found this a little strange since he was a die hard Ford guy with a '64 and a half Mustang and pretty much hated GM cars.

Well as it turned out, he later ended up cutting the '66 GTO into pieces with a cutting torch and hauling it off to a scrap yard. My brother told me that the only things that were left of the car were its 2 bucket seats that were in his parent's garage. One day when he came over to our house to visit my brother, he complained to me that I "short-changed" him on the deal. My response was that he agreed to the deal and that he should have tried to sell the car if he didn't want it rather than cutting it up into pieces. This all took place in the spring of 1977 about 10 years before muscle cars started going up in value.

Edited January 20, 2011 by lonetreesteve

[cygnusx1]

I never said it was a bad thing that Gary came to make his peace. :paranoid:

[Mike]

Cool stuff! I think it's great when someone finds a thread like this, especially Gary, the guy who cut up the car!! It goes to show you that we have some real Z content on this site and not a bunch of junk threads. Just being proud of our club...

That said, I'm surprised the link still works from 8 years ago. Most of the other sites and threads from that long ago are moved or deleted. Gary, you should post it here in the content area and it will last forever.

[1 Bravo 6]

How the heck do you delete a post accidently posted on the wrong thread ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Edited January 20, 2011 by 1 Bravo 6

[gjsmith66]

Wow, I appreciate everyone's replies. I was hesitant to reopen an 8 year old thread, but I thought based on some of the original comments it may be useful for folks to know what I was doing. Just to add some more details, the 260Z I dismantled was originally owned by Stefanos Damianakis, who was the original founder of the Internet Z-Car Club, and he started the first mailing list for Z-cars. He was very proud of his 260Z, and had done a ton of work on it, including building an excellent L28 that had been bored and stroked to 3.0L.

He crashed his car sometime around 1994, and being in school (I think Princeton), he needed to get some $$$ for the remains. I bought it from him, along with a truck full of spare parts that he collected over the years. The L28 ended up in my Red 72 240Z (which was blood red, but appeared pink in some of those older pictures), and I used many of the spares in my 70 Black race car that I tracked at Summit Point for many years before I moved on to tracking my 94 RX-7. I ultimately sold off all my cars when I purchased a nice Lotus Elise in 2005. The Red Z went to a fellow in Northern Virginia (wish I had never sold it, it was perfect), and the Black Z went to a couple in St Louis who were going to put a V8 into it. I believe they picked it up Christmas Eve 2000. The awesome (300hp) Rebello 3.1L that I had in the Black Z was sold to a fellow in New York state.

I believe that I have the original 260Z pictures at a higher resolution somewhere, and if I find them, I will post them so that folks here can see the detail better. The frame rails were completely rusted through, as were the floor boards. The accident bent the forward frame rails, and cracked them in several spots. In addition, the left strut tower was about three inches higher than the right. While I am sure someone with a lot of time on their hands could have attempted to fix it, in 1995 no one wanted it. I offered it up for free on the mailing list at the time, but had no interest.

[gjsmith66]

I was able to find most of the original pictures that are at a resolution of 756 x 504, if you click through the pictures on http://www.z-car.com/stef.htm you will see the better resolution shots.

Gary

http://www.z-car.com/blog/2008/01/02/where-i-have-been