Restored 1970 for sale. Ebay

[xray]

I must say you are facing a difficult decision. I personally would not suggest the 911, but it is your choice...now a Lotus Elise...hmm tough choice.

Not to threadjack too much, but I agree...although resale valuse are falling fast (like all Lotus cars), waiting could be beneficial. Then, there's always the Exige S....

Sigh....back to work...

Steve

[nealkeith]

I understand you have probably made up your mind to sell the car, but I don't believe you have realized the fruits of your labor yet! I agree with Carl completly, I am 53 have a 1988 BMW M6 that I enjoy immensely, but my Zs are more fun to drive, and get more recognition. Plus the people who enjoy the Zs are more real and fun! Keep the car! You won't regret it!

[Zulaytr]

I find it rather ironical that the individual you are referencing is busting your butt because you used the term "restored"! I remember seeing the posted pictures of his car on the eBay. In his posting he had pictures of the engine bay which had several non-original parts on it. I seemed to remember the picture of the aftermarket radio as well! So it appears the following statement should be classified as incorrect as well.

".... just sold the lowest mileage series one vehicle in the world. With 14,ooo showroom original rust free miles"

So you used the term "restored"! That is often misused, but the bottom line is you have a great looking car. If I did not already have 3 Z's I would do a "buy now" in a heartbeat. So don't let anyone rattle you and good luck with the sale of the car.

Bob

[EScanlon]

...snip. I hate to lose the Z, but i have a four car garage and they are all full.... So, need to make space. I know i am not going to get any support on selling the z on this site, thats understandable....snip...

Even though i have two kids and an SUV....snip... My daily driver is a 2006 BMW 750LI.

Thanks for the years of support on this site. It has been an invaluable resource and is some cases friendships i have made along the way.

Mark

In the spirit of friendship:

The enlarged highlight of your post is most telling.

The other bold items paint the rest of the story.

Your two cars; SUV & BMW

Presumably: your wife's.

Again presumably: a car for the kids or a spot for them to play in.

Solution: That the kids have a car already puts them in the privileged status at school...have them park on the street or on the side of the house. Then park your Z in the last space. Or park the SUV in front of the door for the Z if you absolutely must let the kids park in the garage.

Friendly support comments:

Keep the Z a few years. While there are other cars out there that are highly enjoyable, even desireable, like an old comfortable and good pair of blue jeans that you simply refuse to throw away...to everyone's chagrin...the Z will keep you happier for MORE miles of enjoyable motoring, than those other cars that keep you worried that; someone will steal it, that it will get crunched and lose value, that you have to park out in BFE because of the nimrods out there....Do you get the drift of this?

Aside comments:

As far as everyone's "buddy" Burt; while he's technically correct about your having "restored" your car, since you did not revert it to the "original" condition as manufactured (Webster: Restore-(3)to bring back to or put back into a former or original state.); he's also wrong because in another definition (W:(2)to put back into existence or use) you did restore it.

What you actually did was REVIVE the car...per Webster-(1)to restore to consciousness or life:...flourishing again. (2) to restore from ...inactive or unused state. Definitions which use RESTORE as the operative verb.

Lastly:

But all that aside, the car looks great, it is obviously a well cared for and meticulously attended to vehicle. It is patently obvious that you've invested a lot of skull sweat and body fluids into putting this one together. IMO in a few years, if you sell the car, you'll be back here on this site asking the biggest one of us to do you a favor and come by and give you a swift kick in the rear....for having sold it...and wondering why we didn't pound some sense into you. Well all these posts are just that...an attempt at getting you to see that the grass just looks greener...You get the drift?

Even Carl Beck has chimed in with his experience with some of the "exotics"...as well as others.

But if in fact you are hankering for something to DO, then ...

Sadly the auction has been proceeding well, it looks as if the reserve has been met and you may be faced with selling it to some kid with money who'll rice or race it. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

E

[ZIII]

Mark,

I agree with Carl, Bob, Mark et.al., who are urging you to keep it.... You will regret it.... Has nothing to do with money...has everything to do with emotions. As you get older, emotions are more important than money.

George

[DougN]

I have a two-word solution to your problem Mark -- GARAGE LIFT :classic:

[bpilati]

Keep your beautiful Z car and buy another one to work on. It's the only answer...

MMagnus, I'll tell ya what, I'll keep it for you right here in my garage. Just in case you change your mind, it'll be here waiting. I have a brand new car cover for it too. I only used it once. And there's a beer waiting for you too. :stupid:

PS to Mike: I just looked over at my "Join" date, and I know I join this club before 2000. You trying to cheat me outta my seniority? I'm 47 you know, respect your elders.

[ta240]

saw the car on Ebay earlier today. beautiful.

As for the restored thing, the ones that always crack me up are the ones that say something like "restored 2 years ago" and all they did was get it painted and replace the carpet.

One thing that kept me holding onto my Z through the times when I probably should have replaced it was the people that would come up to me at gas stations to talk about it and it would always start with "I had one of those once" and I could tell they wish they still had it.

Someone is going to get one heck of a car at the end of the auction. It is way to nice to abuse on my 110 mile a day commute.

-Trevor

http://www.geocities.com/z-car

[mmagnus]

Carl

You are hilarious. And you made me feel better. I think i am going to

live life to the fullest after turning 40 as i have done up until this point.

Thanks for the putting it all into perspective. Unfortuantely, my father

died when i was 15 and he was 51. So, never could really relate much

to "getting older". I always thought 51 was the finishing point for me

for a long time. Then again, you never know.....

Hi Mark:

I hate to tell you, but you'll be saying the same thing at 50 and 60....

Mentally, you don't grow old, you mature and retain the solid values your life's experiences have forged. For the most part you'll still lust after the same things you did when you were 35 or 40.... The sad part is that many of those "things" won't go out with men that look like their Grandfather (unless a great deal of money changes hands:-).

If you had told me when I was 45 - that I'd be re-married and having kids again at 50 - I'd have told you that you were nuts!!... Thank God we don't get what we ask for... Now in addition to a son 36, a second son 33, I have a daughter 12 years old and the most wonderful wife any man could ask for.

You will find that the time between 40 and 50 years of age - shoots by before you know it. That however is nothing compared to the time flying by at hyper-speed, between 50 and 60 years of age.

Ah to be a kid at 40 again.... and know what I know now....

BTW - cdavid is right - it sounds like Burt - cdavid's advice is solid... ignore Burt. If anything, pity him, he must have a very sad existence. Also, just FYI - his car with 14K miles was a Series II example not a Series I.

kind regards,

Carl B.

[Carl Beck]

Carl

You are hilarious. And you made me feel better. I think i am going to

live life to the fullest after turning 40 as i have done up until this point.

Thanks for the putting it all into perspective. Unfortuantely, my father

died when i was 15 and he was 51. So, never could really relate much

to "getting older". I always thought 51 was the finishing point for me

for a long time. Then again, you never know.....

Hi Mark:

I am "older" and I still can't relate much to it!! I look in the mirror and wonder "what the hell happened?" "Where did all this loose skin on my face and neck come from?".... then I look at lower parts of my body and I have an idea of where it came from ;-)

It's a small world.... Way off topic, but this seems to be an underlying decision driver.... so I'll add some more personal data - that will most likely be of interest only to you...

My father died when I was 11 and he was 48, his brother had passed away at 38... his mother was 49... Actually no one in my family lived past the age of 55 (going back to 1303).... until my older brother made it to 60!! (and died from a heart attack the following month) A new record in the "Beck" family!! All died of coronary or cardiovascular problems... I am now the Record Holder... 61!!

So I understand your thinking and feelings on this matter... I retired at 55 thinking that I would be lucky to make it to 60. I can only say that life has a way of working out almost always - at odds with the best of our plans... I'm still here only because of the miracles of modern medicine.

Just take good care of your health - or make sure you get good health care. Actually the best advice is to do both. As someone else said; "if I knew I would live this long, I'd have taken better care of this body!"

As Mr. K say's at age 96... "Enjoy The Ride" You and I know he isn't referring to the car...

regards,

Carl B.

[mmagnus]

Hi Mark:

I am "older" and I still can't relate much to it!! I look in the mirror and wonder "what the hell happened?" "Where did all this loose skin on my face and neck come from?".... then I look at lower parts of my body and I have an idea of where it came from ;-)

It's a small world.... Way off topic, but this seems to be an underlying decision driver.... so I'll add some more personal data - that will most likely be of interest only to you...

My father died when I was 11 and he was 48, his brother had passed away at 38... his mother was 49... Actually no one in my family lived past the age of 55 (going back to 1303).... until my older brother made it to 60!! (and died from a heart attack the following month) A new record in the "Beck" family!! All died of coronary or cardiovascular problems... I am now the Record Holder... 61!!

So I understand your thinking and feelings on this matter... I retired at 55 thinking that I would be lucky to make it to 60. I can only say that life has a way of working out almost always - at odds with the best of our plans... I'm still here only because of the miracles of modern medicine.

Just take good care of your health - or make sure you get good health care. Actually the best advice is to do both. As someone else said; "if I knew I would live this long, I'd have taken better care of this body!"

As Mr. K say's at age 96... "Enjoy The Ride" You and I know he isn't referring to the car...

regards,

Carl B.

Wow, thats an amazing family tree you have. I thought I had it rough. I guess i better stop eating bacon with every meal. My wife was going to throw this big "getting to 40" party for me this month, setting me back about $10k. I told her not to got to the trouble (and expense) as i would rather spend the money and go away on a mini vacation with my family and relax.

Thanks for the pep talk

Mark

[mmagnus]

In the spirit of friendship:

The enlarged highlight of your post is most telling.

The other bold items paint the rest of the story.

Your two cars; SUV & BMW

Presumably: your wife's.

Again presumably: a car for the kids or a spot for them to play in.

Solution: That the kids have a car already puts them in the privileged status at school...have them park on the street or on the side of the house. Then park your Z in the last space. Or park the SUV in front of the door for the Z if you absolutely must let the kids park in the garage.

Friendly support comments:

Keep the Z a few years. While there are other cars out there that are highly enjoyable, even desireable, like an old comfortable and good pair of blue jeans that you simply refuse to throw away...to everyone's chagrin...the Z will keep you happier for MORE miles of enjoyable motoring, than those other cars that keep you worried that; someone will steal it, that it will get crunched and lose value, that you have to park out in BFE because of the nimrods out there....Do you get the drift of this?

Aside comments:

As far as everyone's "buddy" Burt; while he's technically correct about your having "restored" your car, since you did not revert it to the "original" condition as manufactured (Webster: Restore-(3)to bring back to or put back into a former or original state.); he's also wrong because in another definition (W:(2)to put back into existence or use) you did restore it.

What you actually did was REVIVE the car...per Webster-(1)to restore to consciousness or life:...flourishing again. (2) to restore from ...inactive or unused state. Definitions which use RESTORE as the operative verb.

Lastly:

But all that aside, the car looks great, it is obviously a well cared for and meticulously attended to vehicle. It is patently obvious that you've invested a lot of skull sweat and body fluids into putting this one together. IMO in a few years, if you sell the car, you'll be back here on this site asking the biggest one of us to do you a favor and come by and give you a swift kick in the rear....for having sold it...and wondering why we didn't pound some sense into you. Well all these posts are just that...an attempt at getting you to see that the grass just looks greener...You get the drift?

Even Carl Beck has chimed in with his experience with some of the "exotics"...as well as others.

But if in fact you are hankering for something to DO, then ...

Sadly the auction has been proceeding well, it looks as if the reserve has been met and you may be faced with selling it to some kid with money who'll rice or race it. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

E

Thanks for the feedback. This decision is not a rash one. I put some thought into it. As awesome as the car looks, it is still in "project" status. This means there are several hours of labor needed to get it 100% right. This is time i dont have to spend on it. I have to be realistic with what i do. Right now, i would rather sell it to someone that can appreciate it and use it. I have had people come out and look at it. Surprisingly, mostly mature adults in late 40's or early 50's, which makes me feel a lot better.

Owner this Z has been a roller coaster of emotions. The best parts are seeing the look on peoples faces when i roll up the garage door and they see it for the first time, or maybe a couple of years and see the progress.

I never intened this car to be a daily driver, even for my 5 mile commute to work. I would just sit at my desk worrying about it. So, this is why i am opting to get something that I can feel comfortable taking out and not worrying if there is dirt on my suspension...

I knew that i was not going to be supported on letting the Z go, but do appreciate your candor.

Mark