Dan,

Do you think we are looking at two different part numbers and the part variance between the two? I'm not surprised by the discrepancy between the diagrams in the manuals and our photographs of "original" configurations. I have seen this before. The most striking example I recall was with the carburetor float bowl vent tubes. With the Nashville show coming up and over 50 240Zs registered, I'll be looking at this issue with delight!

Chris

On 2006-11-01 at 7:15 PM, kats said:

Hello,

These are all late 1969 issued books and some.

#1 Nov 1969 USA & CANADA parts catalog

#2 Nov 1969 RHD parts catalog(rivised Dec 1970)

#3 1st Nov 1969 S30 chassis & body (note 3 holes)

#4 1st Nov 1969 L20A/L24 engine (note 3 holes)

#5 25th Nov 1969 slide narration for maintainance

#6 20th Dec 1969 owners manual

#7 copyright 1969 brouchure

#8 For release PM's Wednesday,October 22,1969 "1970 press introduction" (two 240Z photos)

#9 For release PM's Wednesday,October 22,1969 "1970 press introduction"

(one 240Z photo,it has got a brief comment seet according to Road & Track and dated "For immediate release Jan 19,1970")

P.S. What does "PM's Wednesday" mean? Afternoon of that day?

Thank you,

kats

Hi Kats,

 

Here is another log on the fire: Oct. 1969 Press release and photo (HLS30-00007)

 

Same car and photo shoot. HLS30-00007

 

 

Edited February 13, 20178 yr by 240260280

The above b&w photo is another interesting find.  I have an arcade card, ( same size as a postcard with no printing on the back) of the very same photo of the above Z.  However, at the bottom my has the following printing.  "Datsun 240-Z  Printed in USA  Courtesy of Parker Advertising, Inc.,  Jason Hailey Photography."

 

Bonzi Lon

Blue, I really really love this photo, this red 240Z is my favorite. Thank you for sharing it,

is this color version provided from Nissan too?

I am still not for sure that this red 240Z is #00007 , because the bracket for the master vac hose is ordinary one.

I think we talked about this before , Mike B also pointed it out. Very early car has different bracket for the hose.

If possible I would like to see your 1969 240Z's bracket .

Kats

Edited February 15, 20178 yr by kats

And this couple, they looked happy.

Z has many wonderful features, styling, performance, reliability,

and smiling !

Kats

Edited February 14, 20178 yr by kats

I'm happy you both liked it!

I think one of the troubles in identifying the car is "Q3 1969 red overlap" that causes confusion:

1. some early Z promotion used a red car driving in Japan

2. some early Z promotion used a red car driving  in the USA (007)

3. the early FSM manuals used a red car in the photos

 

The missing OK sticker helps as all photos of HLS30-00006, 7,  & 8 do not seem to have them.

 

It would be nice to identify the location of the nice red photo above that overlooks a bay. Some of the early silver 008 photos seem to be in Beverly Hills. The red one above may be in San Francisco area?

 

Kats, I am glad you asked about the brackets ... some confusion now unfolds:

HLS30-00147 has the later bracket:

 

HLS30-00249 has the early bracket:

Edited February 14, 20178 yr by 240260280

Beverly Hills?

 

HLS30-0008 (white walls) in Beverly Hills Area?

 

 

HLS30-00008 again (white walls)

 

No white walls on this one.

 

This seems to be HLS30-00004 or 5 (no badges)

 

Early 1969 Red Overlap

 

Japan (LHD):

 

 

 

 

 

USA (San Francisco?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Japan (Studio ...no badges)

 

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Japan (Studio but fake badges drawn on)

Clearly this early Owner's Manual Cover  is the red badge-less car above used in the maintenance photos.

 

 

 

 

 

Japan (Studio not red... prototype maybe?)

 

Not sure about this studio photo Weird bumper Maybe plastic prototype

 

Again a weird bumper and fat tires.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 14, 20178 yr by 240260280

HLS30-00058 has the later type

 

 

HLS30-00059 has the early type

HSL30-00452 has the early type

 

 

 

Many many pictures ! Thank you.

I tend to think very early cars like "primary production prototype" would have an early bracket , would not they? 
Let's say the cars like S30/HLS30/HS30/PS30-00001 to 00010 or so need to be checked.

About the red car with the couple, it has a later bracket and a fuel rail is an ordinary type,  And also a plastic cover on a voltage regulator, a tub on an inspection lid , they are not seen in a very early cars which can be seen in a service manuals or parts catalogs. These things make me think this car may not be 00007. 

The sales brochure has code 0370 on the back, could it mean "issued May 1970" ?
If so, it was possible to use later car like made in Dec 69 or Jan 70 or even Feb 70.

What do you think ?

PS this picture shows the car does not even has an early bracket for the hose,though. Looked not well organized, still working.

Kats

Edited February 15, 20178 yr by kats

Kats,

I agree.  If the date is March 1970 then it may not be all photos of early cars.

 

It is interesting about the lack of hose clamps in the manual. HLS30-00013 and HLS30-00072 do not have hose clamps either.