Hybrid and V8s

[CANDYBLUE2+2]

I tried getting on this site the other day and couldn't. Something odd going on I guess. Anyway, I took a look at the Hybrid Z site and maybe I read it wrong, but is there some problem between this site and that one where V8 converted Zs are concerned? Seems like it from all the bashing going on from the hardcore V8 guys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to be a moderator here, but I did at one time seriously consider the switch myself. If I hadn't already put all my spare change into the existing engine, I might have done it too. Now, I guess I'll never know as I am genuinely satisfied with the results...especially the look, performance and overall sweet response from onlookers when they see all three of those pretty Webber Carbs sitting under the bonnet. Just another opinion, and you know what they say about those!!!

[hls30.com]

To each his own, most of the members here have no or lowkey modifications, at hybridZ they go from moderate upgrades to hang an emblem on it and call it a Z. They have their values and we have ours, and that doesn't make either right for anyone but the owner of the car in question. Choose what you want and join the club that supports your decision. We spend our time hunting for Z parts, facts and fulfilment-bashing has nothing to do with this site. Enjoy your ride where ever it takes you!

Will

[ecp48]

Nothing wrong with doing both. Intolerance on either side is self defeating, as there is considerable overlap. Dropping the eight in a pristeen 240 would bother me, but utilizing a basically rough, but rust free 76 280Z to house a 5.0 Ford interests me. In fact the move is in the planning and preparation stage. I still have a relatively lively 78 280 with a modified six and an 81 280ZX.

The folks that are religious must be Datsun fans have a point with real collectibles, but the others are only toys, whether modified Datsun six or the eight. In my case I will get as much pleasure out of engineering the installation and raising the pucker factor on track days, as anything else. It also will cost much less than a vette or other equivalent performance toy.

[red_dog007]

I dont like that site at all. Even though the question has been asked over and over again, here people greet you, while over there they automatically hate you and tell you to do your research. Then lock your threads.

They come across very rued for the basic questions that I had, and for even more detailed questions that I had.

I have asked over there about V8 mods, RB motors, and SR motors as if I ever swapped these would be of interest, though when asking these questions, I basically got stiffed in the face.

I think that mostly because of this site, I had decided to not engine swap, and keep my L24 motor in there, but get some triple Webers. Even though with the same amount of money I could get an LS1 and tranny or something, and have 100+ more HP, I like the old school style route that I am going instead of the popular, what everyone is doing/getting way. I got the car because it is a classic, and I am going to keep it that way. :-)

[CANDYBLUE2+2]

Points taken. Thanks for the input, and I hope your responses will encite more to reply as well. It's an interesting subject no matter how you look at it or what side you take. Good Luck and many happy motoring miles no matter what you choose!

[qwik240z]

I am a member of both forums but I don't frequent either one much. I also own several 510's and I seem to spend more time on the 510 sites.

I own a 72 240Z. When I first got it, it had an L28 with dual SU's, a header and mild cam. It also had upgraded suspension with coilovers and tokikos, camber plates and strut tower bars. I loved the feel of the L28 but yearned for more power.

I went back and forth over the great debate "to V8 or not" and when I asked this list for advice back in 2003, the general consensus was that if I swapped a V8 into my 240Z I would be "bastardizing the car" "How could you ruin that beautiful car with a V8", etc.

I finally did decide to do a V8 swap. I ended up installing a 2002 LS1 motor and a six speed.

I am so happy with the final results. The car is a blast to drive. I left the motor stock and used the factory computer. It is a super car that has great power (340RWHP), handles great, is very reliable, gets great gas mileage (I got 28MPG coming home from the Mitty last year) and requires very little maintenance.

I received tremendous support from the members of Hybrid Z. Yes they are very strict on that list. The do not like to answer questions that have been asked before since they have archived all the info and you just need to search for it. Doing a project Z requires you to study and research lots of info. It is all there for you to read. If you can't find it, they will help.

In my opinion, this list is more for the purists and that list more for the modifiers. I like both lists. I like both types of people.

I have attended two Z car conventions with my car. 2003 in NH and 2005 in Syrcuse. In 2003 my car still had the L28 and in 2005 it had the LS1. Alot of the same people that complimented my car in 2003 were complimenting it in 2005. I did hear a few nasty comments from a few real purists but even some of the diehard purists had to compliment the quality of the swap. I plan to attend the 2007 Z car Convention in Daytona this October too.

In an interview several years ago,

Mr. K was asked, "if you could change one thing about the original 240Z, what would it be?"

Mr. K responded " I would have given it more power"

I wonder if any of the purists have ever driving a quality converted V8 Z car. I bet if they had, they may have to change their minds or at least ease up a bit.

There are way more Z cars on the road then there are 510s. The 510 crowd is just the opposite. The more mods the better. Modifying a 510 makes it a better, more desireable and more valueable car. Of course the quality of the mods comes into play. Same with the Z car. A cheesy swap is garbage but a quality, well planned and well executed swap can enhance a Z car to a new level. I consider my Z car on the same level as many of today's exotic Super Cars. Power, handing and a classic body.

Whether you have a stock Z or a modified Z, we all have one common thread. We love the Datsun Z cars. That' s my take. Your opinion may differ. That is what makes us individuals.

[John Coffey]

Anyway, I took a look at the Hybrid Z site and maybe I read it wrong, but is there some problem between this site and that one where V8 converted Zs are concerned?

I'm an admin over at HybridZ and I'm not aware of any problems between HZ and CZC. Some members take issue with a Datsun/Nissan purist way of thinking and that's what got Owen and Pete to start HybridZ way back in the 1990s. Both were doing a V8 swap and they got a lot of flack from local clubs and some of the existing Z related message boards.

HZ is a Hot Rod site for Datsun Zs and its philosophy is different from this site. Both phlisophies are fine within the context of their own sites and I've built stock and Hot Rod 240Zs over the years. Ultimatetly its your car and you can do with it as you see fit. Problems occur when people start telling others what to do with their cars.

[240ZX]

I'm an admin over at HybridZ and I'm not aware of any problems between HZ and CZC. Some members take issue with a Datsun/Nissan purist way of thinking and that's what got Owen and Pete to start HybridZ way back in the 1990s. Both were doing a V8 swap and they got a lot of flack from local clubs and some of the existing Z related message boards.

HZ is a Hot Rod site for Datsun Zs and its philosophy is different from this site. Both phlisophies are fine within the context of their own sites and I've built stock and Hot Rod 240Zs over the years. Ultimatetly its your car and you can do with it as you see fit. Problems occur when people start telling others what to do with their cars.

Well put John....I'll second that emotion! Both sites are great....imagine what it would be like without either one! I frequent both site regularly and think that both sites handle themselves far better than many other site....and I think you know what I'm talking about. Two thumbs up for both sites!

Tom

[1 Bravo 6]

Hmmm,

I think I visited HybridZ's site once or twice. My interests are in keeping my car as original as possible. That's why I visit THIS SITE.

However, if I decided to drop a V8 into a Zed and add body kits and mouldings to make it look like a miniature Ford Thunderbird, then, quite obviously, HZ would be the site to visit.

While both sites are devoted to Zeds, they're like chalk and cheese. Anyone flaming either site because of their differences would have to be a six pack short of a carton.

To each his own, .... live and let live etc etc.

Rick.

:devious: :devious:

[Mr Camouflage]

I'm on both sites, Hybrid is good for technical info on engine swaps and performance modifications, turbos, newer engines, while this site is better for info about keeping it original, datsun history and general datsun chit chat.