Considering buying #237 - Need Advice

[26th-Z]

From looking at the photos, that is NOT a european balance tube. Whatever a "european" balance tube is.

[Mike B]

Thanks for all of the good feedback guys. I'll post some more pictures later on tonight.

McCrack - you mentioned that you know of this car. It looks like you are located in FL but the car in in the NY/NJ area. How do you know of it? Have you seen the car in person or has it been listed for sale before?

[lonetreesteve]

Mike,

You never see '69 240Zsf or sale in this kind of condition. They always seem to be basket cases (no offense, 26th-Z, but the Princess #27 was really rough when you saved her off of Ebay a couple years ago ). I would snatch #237 as quickly as possible if I were you Mike!!

[moonpup]

I know of this car. It is not a restored car. If it was it's a real bad job.

Well, he say's he knows this car and declares that it hasn't been restored.

But then he say's "If it was it's a real bad job"

So......which is it?

[Carl Beck]

Hi Mike:

Jim Koslovski was the original owner - he was asking $8,500.00 for the car. It has an 11/69 production date. He never did supply the original engine serial number... but it should be in the range of L24-23xx or L24-24xx.

#238 is in Seattle

#239 is in Richardson, TX

Several of the 69 Production 240-Z's were not equipped with Emissions Controls that included the air pumps/injectors, nor were they equipped with the gasoline vapor recovery systems. These items were not required in Canada, nor in 49 of the 50 States in the US for cars produced prior to 1970.

I don't believe that you can actually "Restore" a 69 production car today for less than $30K when all is said and done. {unless you purchased and saved hundreds of parts over the past ten years or so}.

In my opinion - If I had the storage space... I'd be a buyer at $7,500.00 if the car checks out underneath, in the battery area and if it still has it's original engine.

So far we have located HLS30 DATSUN 240-Z's

31 cars with VIN's below 100

8 below #25

20 below #50

25 below #75

31 below #100

19 cars with VIN's between 100 and 200

(total of 50 below #200)

29 cars with VIN' between 200 and 300

(total of 79 below #300)

25 cars with VIN's between 300 and 400

(total of 104 below #400)

24 cars with VIN's between 400 and 500

(total of 128 below #500)

12 cars with VIN's between 500 and 789 (with 69 production dates, intermixed with 01/70 production)

(total of 140 cars with 69 production dates)

Note that "located" means the cars exist today - their condition is another matter. Most are reported to be in very bad condition. Only a few that I know of are really ready to show. The above numbers include #6, #7 and #8 that were not sold to the public but rather were the North American Show Cars - later given to race teams.

FWIW,

Carl B.

[76Datsun280z]

Looks like it's got a loud exhuast by the shape of that tail pipe.

[Mike B]

I received a total of 48 pictures from the seller. I will try to post all of them in several posts so that I can get as much feedback as possible. I told the seller I would look the pictures over tonight and ask for additional photos of other areas tomorrow morning. I plan to ask for photos of the hatch, the inner floorboards with the carpet removed and the battery area. Let me know if there are other suggested photo areas. Many of the ones he sent are kind of blury.

Carl - Your comment about the engine range has me a little concerned. He says it is the orginal engine and the data plate lists the engine number as 2848, which is higher than your range of 23xx - 24xx. There are photos of the engine and VIN that agree with the data plate, but he did remove the engine bay data plate for a "better photo". He said it unscrews. I think the one in my 72 is pop riveted in. Where the early ones screwed in? The fact that the owner wouldn't give you the number previously also makes me a little nervous given the ranges you mentioned and the "unscrewed" data plate.

[Mike B]

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Last group of photos (so far)