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I must say, the new owner has ALWAYS been very open, honest, realistic and a stickler for accuracy in his online discussions of these cars. I have every confidence that he will get to the bottom of it, and tell it like it is. He will also most likely turn it into an absolute gem of a car. Good luck to him! :-)

Alan T.

Who's the new owner?


It would also set off all sorts of alarms as it progressed through the Japanese systems such as first registration ( GT-R was a different taxation category to GT and GT-X, for example ) and local parking permits ( again, GT-R was wider than GT and GT-X - so that would be picked up on ). Servicing at the local Nissan dealer would be another opportunity, and should the car have reached the age where it needed a 'shakken' ( Japanese roadworthiness inspection ) it would surely have been questioned. Lastly, when the car was exported from Japan to PNG the documentation would have been inspected - and a 'KPGC110' VIN prefix with an L20 engine rather than an S20 would have been noted and questioned

Are you seriously trying to tell us that cars destined from Nissan works for overseas markets were registered in Japan first?? Pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells!

And that there is an EXPORT inspection that would detect that a car with paperwork matching the physical item wasn't the standard production car? Get real! The paperwork as provided by the MANUFACTURER is in and of itself documented evidence that it is 'standard'.

( I have personal experience of exporting from Japan, and they are very strict ).

As a PRIVATE CITIZEN and with used items, very different to a manufacturer of new product that brings in hard currency.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that cars destined from Nissan works for overseas markets were registered in Japan first?? Pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells!

aarc240,

I'm not pulling any legs. I don't need to.

Who said this car was ever an official Export market model then? Do you know more about it than the rest of us? As far as I am aware, all the 'evidence' presented thus far ( including information and photos sent to me by the previous owner some years ago ) points to its spec as being that of a Japanese market version. The Japanese language servicing / maintenance advice stickers on the car ( which appear to have been there since new ) would appear to confirm that.

In which case it would most likely have been registered in Japan before being exported to PNG. The only other scenario I can imagine this car possibly fitting into is that of a 'Diplomatic Sales Office' car, where a car was purchased with certain taxes 'zero rated' via Nissan's DSO office in Ginza, and then exported for foreign use. Even then it would have to be inspected by Japanese Customs officials at the port of export, which would mean that the firewall VIN stamp and engine bay ID tag ( which would also give the engine type ) would be compared to the documentation presented for inspection. Unless of course you think it might have been 'smuggled' out of Japan as contraband goods?

And that there is an EXPORT inspection that would detect that a car with paperwork matching the physical item wasn't the standard production car? Get real! The paperwork as provided by the MANUFACTURER is in and of itself documented evidence that it is 'standard'.

You want me to "Get real"? Only a few posts back you wanted us to believe that ".... each ( Nissan ) body was sequentially numbered regardless of the prefix....."

I can hear the tune of 'Jingle bells' in the distance, LOL.

As a PRIVATE CITIZEN and with used items, very different to a manufacturer of new product that brings in hard currency.

Talk about teaching your grandmother to suck eggs. Japanese imports and exports ( yes, occasionally including motor vehicles ) are part of my line of work. I can tell you a few interesting stories about Japanese customs inspections and paperwork mountains if you have a couple of weeks to spare.

I suggest you concentrate on the car that we are talking about here, and think about it a little bit more about the 'evidence' presented thus far ( weighing up all the possibilities - not ruling out skullduggery ) rather than trying to pick holes in common sense.

Alan T.

Aw, I missed all the fun.

I wish Brian all the best with this car.

By the way Alan, Ray is in Japan at the moment and I hear he is bringing back an S20 engine to put in his Prince...

Or maybe the Japanese won't let him take it out of the country. :bunny:

By the way Alan, Ray is in Japan at the moment and I hear he is bringing back an S20 engine to put in his Prince...

Lachlan,

Funnily enough, I heard that he was there and was looking for certain things. One of the people he got in touch with is a friend of mine. Small world.

He plans an S20 in an S54? Give it a few years and there'll be a thread on here with us all arguing whether this was actually a 'development car' made by Nissan to test the S20 before the PGC10 :love:ROFL

So is he now 'catching up' with himself re the stories he told three years ago? Or maybe I'm just far too cynical? :rolleyes:

Or maybe the Japanese won't let him take it out of the country. :bunny:

Yeah, like all those 'Yakuza' who wanted me to chop off my little finger before I was allowed to buy a new distributor cap for my 'Australian' S20 :cheeky:

Honestly, some of the stuff that people come up with makes the mind positively boggle, doesn't it?..........

Yeah, like all those 'Yakuza' who wanted me to chop off my little finger before I was allowed to buy a new distributor cap for my 'Australian' S20

...Mate, the GUMLEAF mafia has you in their sites for sneakin' OUR S20 from these fine shores to the ol' Dart!:bandit: ROFL

I still have some emails from Ray Broughton (East Keilor Wreckers....remember? Hmm?) regarding this heinous crime! He remembers it well!!:finger:ROFL

Any spare S20 cam covers?:love: :love: :love:.. I got an idea! (No, it didn't hurt either!)

...Mate, the GUMLEAF mafia has you in their sites for sneakin' OUR S20 from these fine shores to the ol' Dart!:bandit: ROFL

I still have some emails from Ray Broughton (East Keilor Wreckers....remember? Hmm?) regarding this heinous crime! He remembers it well!!:finger:ROFL

If that's the case, I'll have to watch out when I'm ordering a drink or meal at any London bar or restaurant.......... :paranoid:

But I'm not guilty on all charges! It wasn't me that got it from EKW, and it was sitting in a very dark shed here in south east England for thousands of years before I rescued it from being a fancy home for mice. At least it went to an honest home, and I must say it is looking fairly spiffy at the moment.

Any spare S20 cam covers?:love: :love: :love:.. I got an idea! (No, it didn't hurt either!)

Does the idea involve an RB20 head and a large can of Evo-Stik? If so, I might not have one 'available to me' at the moment........ :bunny:

It wasn't you? Hmmm. Another piece to the puzzle. I originally thought " S20 to England = Alan Thomas, no brainer!!":geek:

Does the idea involve an RB20 head and a large can of Evo-Stik? If so, I might not have one 'available to me' at the moment........

How the hell did you pick that in one:ninja: It is something I would like to talk to you about at length though.

P.S. What's goin' on!! Now KATS is discussing ...S20 cam covers!!

EKW had an S20? Did they even know what it was? How much was it sold for?

Did someone score a bargain, or did they have to sell a kidney? Is that the S20 you have Alan?

So Ray's selling the C110 with the RB20 (with the fake dizzy) and putting an S20 in an S54? Seems like and odd character this Ray fella.

Speaking of S54's anybody hear on the grapevine what happened to the 2 that were for sale in Tassie.

Hmmm, S20 replica cam cover that bolts onto an RB20/25....... icon3.gif

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