Maybe a bastard 70 or PO repair

[Obewon]

Onuthin,

Arne and Mat both make good points. I personally would leave it as is.

[240znz]

Sounds like you do have a transison model. So keep it as it is. Some consider these to be amoungst the rarest models of all or at least unusual.

FWIW, HS30's did not have the door plates either, or dash displayed VIN numbers for that matter. Wouldn't it be strange if USA import rules allowed a HLS30 in the country without a door plate?

At the end of the day, change the car as you want to. You only have you to answer to.

There is a HS30 in NZ that I know of with exactly the same cross over items as you have. Does your have a hand throttle?

[onuthin]

It has the cable and bracket but the lever was taken off at the dealer.I found the lever and the knob so now it has it.

[Carl Beck]

Hi Onuthin:

According to the Nissan Publications - the Series II (aka the Late Model 1971 Datsun 240-Z's HLS30)..started production at VIN 21000.

The highest Series I Datsun 240-Z we have recorded is HLS30 20438 which has a build date of 01/71. It was sold and titled as a 1971 Datsun 240-Z and is still owned by its original owner. (has rear hatch vents, 240-Z Script on the 1/4 panels, plastic tool covers behind the seats, 70 style seat belts etc).

For Dec. 1970 the VIN range we have found runs from HLS30-15605 to HLS30-18124.

Car HLS30-18147 has a build date of 01/71 - and it has the Vented Z, with rear hatch vents.

So it would seem to be quite possible that your Z was produced with both the Vented Z's and Rear Hatch Vents..... With a 12/70 production, I would expect it to have

a) no holes in the steering wheel

plastic tool covers behind the seats

c) original style seat belt buckles

e) no "pockets" in the sun visors

f) no vents in the plastic panel on the 1/4 panels

If it has a) though f) above - and if you like, I see no reason to retain the Vented Z emblems. If the rear quarters have the holes punched in them - I would worry about getting moisture behind emblems that would delay allowing it to dry out.

Side note: Years ago, I ordered new rear quarter panels from Nissan for a Series I 240-Z. One of the Right Rear Quarter Panels has no vent hole stamped in it - the other has a die cut - that outlines where the vent hole would be on a Series II car - but it hasn't been stamped/punched out.

So it would seem that the "transition" from the Series I to the Series II cars - started in late Dec. of 1970 - and was fully made by mid Jan. 1971. Between, yes - many parts were mixed between Series on some cars....

FWIW,

Carl B.

[Carl Beck]

Onuthin,

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I have a different problem, no door post data plate was ever attached.

Hi Obewon:

I would guess - looking at the picture you included.. that the door jam data plate was attached - as the holes from the original rivets would appear to have been filled... but are still visible.

Did you mean - no door data plate was ever attached - when you got the car?

FWIW,

Carl B.

[onuthin]

Hi Onuthin:

According to the Nissan Publications - the Series II (aka the Late Model 1971 Datsun 240-Z's HLS30)..started production at VIN 21000.

The highest Series I Datsun 240-Z we have recorded is HLS30 20438 which has a build date of 01/71. It was sold and titled as a 1971 Datsun 240-Z and is still owned by its original owner. (has rear hatch vents, 240-Z Script on the 1/4 panels, plastic tool covers behind the seats, 70 style seat belts etc).

For Dec. 1970 the VIN range we have found runs from HLS30-15605 to HLS30-18124.

Car HLS30-18147 has a build date of 01/71 - and it has the Vented Z, with rear hatch vents.

So it would seem to be quite possible that your Z was produced with both the Vented Z's and Rear Hatch Vents..... With a 12/70 production, I would expect it to have

a) no holes in the steering wheel

plastic tool covers behind the seats

c) original style seat belt buckles

e) no "pockets" in the sun visors

f) no vents in the plastic panel on the 1/4 panels

If it has a) though f) above - and if you like, I see no reason to retain the Vented Z emblems. If the rear quarters have the holes punched in them - I would worry about getting moisture behind emblems that would delay allowing it to dry out.

Side note: Years ago, I ordered new rear quarter panels from Nissan for a Series I 240-Z. One of the Right Rear Quarter Panels has no vent hole stamped in it - the other has a die cut - that outlines where the vent hole would be on a Series II car - but it hasn't been stamped/punched out.

So it would seem that the "transition" from the Series I to the Series II cars - started in late Dec. of 1970 - and was fully made by mid Jan. 1971. Between, yes - many parts were mixed between Series on some cars....

FWIW,

Carl B.

It has all A thru F. Also the doors do not have the indention in the hinges,or the deflectors in the middle of the air vents.even the seats are series one.

I am not sure how the vents work such as where the air goes or how it circulates on either type of vent.I didn't find a thread explaining this.If any one can explain them it would be a major help.

[Obewon]

Hi Obewon:

I would guess - looking at the picture you included.. that the door jam data plate was attached - as the holes from the original rivets would appear to have been filled... but are still visible.

Did you mean - no door data plate was ever attached - when you got the car?

FWIW,

Carl B.

Hey Carl,

I can send a better picture if you want. If you look closely, you see the door post was pre-punched\indented for the data plate but never drilled or filled in.