Posted February 23, 200718 yr comment_200260 Hi guys.I was wondering if anybody have the measurments for a roll bar.I think is going to be better for me to build the bar instead of ordering.Any help would be grateful.thank you Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 25, 200718 yr comment_200465 IMO it's so much faster and less annoying to buy it and install...Unless you can bend pipe, weld pipe, grind it, finish it, pad it etc...it just dosen't seem like a great way to spend quality time to me, just my 2 cents. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 25, 200718 yr Author comment_200489 Hey Candyblue2+2.I got your point. Always buy new stuff.But this time I can get that part done by 60 to 80 bucks wich is nothing compare to others.If you take a look at my car bodywork you can see all parts are home made and the body is perfectly done.So this part is very easy to reproduce if only got the exact angles and measurments.Thank You Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 200718 yr comment_200663 Buy a 10' stick of 3/4" conduit and a bender. Measure and bend that as a template for your main hoop. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 26, 200718 yr comment_200667 I used this drawing for my hoop. I gave it to a rally car fabricator and he adjusted things for his bender and bent me up a main hoop. It fits TIGHT. Really tight. Mine is attached at the rockers rather than to the floor.http://album.hybridz.org/data/500/medium/7833tubeDimensions.JPGHere is a thread on my rollbar, which will eventually become a cage, there is also a lot of discussion here that may help you: http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=102715 Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 200718 yr Author comment_200765 Thank you Fellows.Antoher question.Some bars have to be welded and others can be bolted right? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 200718 yr comment_200778 just a thaought.. for manufacturing this part, shouldn't we consider the material of the metal to be bent? stiffness or elasticity?sometimes metal materials vary in the dynamic behaviour if you just mix some of them togeather..in different words.. if you manufacture the exact same shape with same thickness.. would you get the same performance and for the long term not having a permanent plastic deformation of this part?just a question.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 200718 yr comment_200808 Here in the USA our various race sanctioning organizations (SCCA, NHRA, NASCAR, NASA, etc.) specifiy tubing material type, OD, and wall thickness. We generally don't have a big selection to choose from if we want to race on a track somewhere.And given the half-century of experience those same racing organizations have with accidents, roll overs, etc. their recommendations are correct. As someone who builds roll cages in race cars for a living, I would be reluctant to experiment with my customer's lives by trying alternative materials.In the past, Porsche experimented with aluminum tubing (6061T6 2" OD .135 wall) in their roll cage construction on 934s, 935s, and 936s. They found that the cages worked well on the first impact but tended to fail on subsequent hits. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 200718 yr comment_200809 If you're doing it yourself you should weld it. That is superior to bolting it in. Mohamed, there is definitely a difference in materials. Most people use DOM tubing 1.5" x .120" wall thickness. Some prefer 1.75" x .095" wall thickness. Definitely use DOM or "Drawn Over Mandrel" tubing. Both of these tubing thicknesses are legal for SCCA/NASA road racing for the Z. For NHRA drag racing I think they require .134" wall tubing. You should check with the rule book of the sanctioning body you want to race with before you start building anything. Panamared, it sounds like you don't have much experience with this stuff. You might want to do some more research before you start welding on your car. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 27, 200718 yr Author comment_200810 Thank you guys.Jon...U are right I dont have any experience with this stuff. Your tips show me that You are a good source to solve this issue. So any comment would be appreciated.From anyone.thank you. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
February 28, 200718 yr comment_200915 thank you Jon, good tips.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/23394-roll-bar/#findComment-200915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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