Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432

[w3wilkes]

In the USA generally if your car is over 40 years old you can get a "vintage" registration that allows you to miss on some emissions levels. I would say that even most of our cars would pass the local emissions levels required for their years, like your 432 does. 

[Captain Obvious]

8 hours ago, kats said:

I know you must have smog test there, is there anything that your car has to be inspected ?

Kats,

Here in the USA, each state governs it's own inspection process. And as you could imagine, the strenuousness of those inspections vary wildly from state to state. Some states have even decided they do not need any inspections at all. 

Here in Pennsylvania where I am, there is a once per year inspection that I consider very thorough. For example... Lights, glass, fuel system, body and frame integrity, tires, safety equipment are all inspected. Put the car up on a lift to check the suspension, steering, and exhaust systems. Remove wheels to check the brakes, etc. And we also have an emissions test as well depending on the age of the car and the mileage it has driven per year.

But one thing they do NOT check is the alignment. If everything looks OK and the bearings and suspension are tight and there is enough depth to the tire tread you're good. So if nothing is loose or worn and the car feels fine during a short on-road test drive, then a suspension out of alignment will not be flagged as part of the inspection.

[calvinhg]

Very different in Texas... The inspection usually is no more than 20 minutes, and they don't check emissions (yay!). All they check is basic stuff, like parking brake, obdii codes, power steering, windshield tinting... Govern me not haha

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[heyitsrama]

On 10/9/2018 at 8:38 AM, 240260280 said:

Side Slip Test:

 

http://www.240260280.com/History/Testing/Testing Japan/RollOver11Mb.mp4

lolololololololololololol I dont know why I thought the A-pillar would offer any type of support 

[siteunseen]

13 hours ago, kats said:

Looks like there is no one who enjoys old car in the government. 

Kats

You have that right!  Those are some pretty high prices to pay for a vintage car.  We are lucky, in about 40 states in the US you have the option of getting an authentic tag from the year of manufacture.  For my '72 I had to buy an actual tag from the year 1972 and register it but I will never have to pay again.  I guess the way they see it is you've paid taxes for so many years you shouldn't have to keep paying?

 

[kats]

Thank you everyone , this is very interesting ! Pennsylvania requires manythings like Japan , Taxas does not so much !

siteunseen , your Alabama plate has "72" , very cool ! 

If I have a chance to be born again , I wish in other country ,  not in Japan ! People have been paying too much tax, but we are all worried about our life , crazy.

Kats   

[kats]

But I still love  Z and live  in  Japan .

Kats

[calvinhg]

Well you don't have school shootings and Islamic terrorism, I'd rather pay high taxes than have to deal with those... Not that I think higher taxes help, Japan just has different morals
Sorry for the politics idk if that's taboo here [emoji56]

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[kats]

Hi lordkarma88

thanks , I try not to be complaining ?

Anyway we have wonderful Z , Z makes me happy.

I hope everyone in Florida OK ...

Kats

Edited October 11, 2018 by kats

[Gav240z]

On 10/10/2018 at 2:38 AM, 240260280 said:

Side Slip Test:

http://www.240260280.com/History/Testing/Testing Japan/RollOver11Mb.mp4

I see the problem, can you? No factory undertray on that car.

On 10/10/2018 at 4:04 PM, kats said:

Every this inspection, and pay 500 USD every year for the car TAX . Old car has to pay 25 % more for that !!

Looks like there is no one who enjoys old car in the government. 

Kats

Ouch, in Australia we actually have a good scheme going in Victoria.. You can have 45 or 90 days permit which is really cheap. Like $100 p/year. No recurring road worthy checks and no emissions tests. Once the car is over 25 years of age (classic status). Only requirement is you join a local car club that is part of the scheme.

You will then be issued with a CH plate (Classic Historic). Which is a bit of a bummer because I lost the original plates from new (LCU540). But I still have them in storage.

Original Victoria Plates from 1972

Historic plates (burgundy background).

Each time you use the car though you have to write it down in a log book (on paper) - which is annoying but it's kind of interesting to keep track of what dates you used the car and what you did in it.

My 1995 FD RX-7 will be eligible in a couple of years which is great because right now it costs me $2000 in registration, insurance and tax each year. Once they hit 25 years of age however all costs drop significantly as vintage cars are considered "low risk".

11 hours ago, kats said:

But I still love  Z and live  in  Japan .

Kats

I think I could live anywhere in the world, so long as I owned at least 1 S30Z. :) Here is an Australian brochure photo.

PS: Kats thanks for sending me that HS30 data via PM. I can't recall if I replied thank you yet or not?

[240260280]

@Gav240z, one of the earliest export Z's had same tail lights &  front turn indicators for the Aus. market... apart from the LHD it is a car for you!

Plus as rear spoiler.

 

The red car in the brochure above does not seem to have any external mirrors?  Usually there were wing mirrors in your market.

Edited October 11, 2018 by 240260280

[Gav240z]

1 hour ago, 240260280 said:

@Gav240z, one of the earliest export Z's had same tail lights &  front turn indicators for the Aus. market... apart from the LHD it is a car for you!

Plus as rear spoiler.

The red car in the brochure above does not seem to have any external mirrors?  Usually there were wing mirrors in your market.

That blue car is likely a European market HLS30 with the amber rear turn signals and clear front parkers. I've seen them referred to as "export" market parkers on Yahoo! Auctions Japan. You can also tell it's European (likely) because AU market cars didn't have a turn signal in the front fender (note it's smooth in that photo?). We didn't get them in that position until 1974+.

Early AU market cars did indeed have fender mirrors. From 70-71. (2 styles, a flat mirror and a later bullet mirror like the Japanese Market cars).

However from 72-73 they got a single side mirror (like North American cars) on the driver side only. The passenger side had no mirrors fitted. Unlike North American market cars it was uncommon to see dealer fitted mirrors on AU market 240z's. We did get a lot of aftermarket wheels in place of the steel topy wheels though, which makes them very hard to find over here. Both my 70's had aftermarket wheels fitted from new. #51 had peanut / kidney bean style alloys and #150 had Aunger Hotwires (even as a spare).

Lots of people fitted later mirrors or mirrors off other cars later on (since many didn't like fender mirrors) or didn't like the single door mirror on the driver side. Hence you see a lot of Ford Falcon XA mirrors fitted to these cars.

Side note: The data I've collected on AU market HS30s (and HS30's in general) indicates that 903 Blue is quite a rare factory colour (3% of total cars).. I love the colour, hopefully I can find a 903 Blue car at some point!

Edited October 11, 2018 by Gav240z