Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432

[kats]

Hi Blue, I really love this car, Euro model . One thing we might keep in mind is, this car could be a "Portuguese version " spec suspentions. Not a "Final Europe model " configulation .  Like we have discussed about the test report of Euro spec development , Nissan engineers began studying from Feb 1970 , completed in 27th Mar 1971 . So this blue 1969 Tokyo motor show car was born before the study for Euro version.

I read the report carefully, I come to think like this,  at the beginning of the production, some of the HLS models could have the first version euro suspention , that is  later called "Current Euro version" as seeing from the report .

In the report, " June 1970 , we confirmed and set the Current Euro version like this ..." , this would indicate that Current Euro version could exist from the begining of production.  Nissan began studying faithfully for the Euro model from Feb 1970, but this does not mean they did not do anything for the Euro model before Feb 1970.  

However some of you noticed , this car's tire is not a 175HR 14, the car has 6.45-14 Dunlop grand speed, that does not match the report , and rear side markers like US is something uneasy for me. But I guess this car has Current Euro version ( Finally called Portuguese version) spec suspentions .   

Kats

Edited October 11, 2018 by kats

[kats]

Hi Gavin, I am glad that  you have got it, I hope it will assist your study a little bit . Let's talk about it in sometime. We still find new hidden ZGs and 432s today .

Kats  

Edited October 11, 2018 by kats

[calvinhg]

Right hand drive... That's something on my bucket list. Would be amazing if it were a Z [emoji7]

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[Gav240z]

8 hours ago, kats said:

Hi Gavin, I am glad that  you have got it, I hope it will assist your study a little bit . Let's talk about it in sometime. We still find new hidden ZGs and 432s today .

Kats  

 

Thanks Kats,

I like to think that 907 Green 240z (AU spec) is my car HS30 00051 - however there is no way to really know for sure. I recall a friend showing me that full brochure in person many years ago. He got it when he first bought a 240z in 1971 (it was incidentally 904 white with a blue interior - photos here) However I was only able to find the second photo with the woman outside the house - which is very 70s Australian architecture (here is an example of such a house, a family friend's father penned this design back in that era). I couldn't find the front cover photo again. Thanks for sharing it.

[w3wilkes]

1 hour ago, Gav240z said:

Australian architecture (here is an example of such a house, a family friend's father penned this design back in that era).

Much like 70's architecture in the US too. I noticed in the floor plan that there's a Porsche in the garage.

[Gav240z]

49 minutes ago, w3wilkes said:

Much like 70's architecture in the US too. I noticed in the floor plan that there's a Porsche in the garage.

The Porsche on the floor plan (is not from the original plans) it's more an "aspirational" diagram for the punters to feel like their buying into that sort of lifestyle I suppose? :). You see it a lot with glossy Real Estate brochures over here, they will put vintage / classic cars in the driveway or in 3D renderings etc..

Sadly that home and many others like it are often being bulldozed to make way for multiple dwellings on the block (multiple town houses). My aunt sent the house to me as her friend was somewhat sad about selling the house his father had designed and I guess much like us car enthusiasts want to find a good home for our cars to preserve them, some people want to see houses go to someone who won't knock it over for the next best thing and in the name of making a quick buck.

In another thread I noticed similar architecture with a 240z here.

I don't want to derail Kats thread with talk of real estate, but I can't help but notice such things when looking at old brochures and the like, because it is of that era. I've recently started to warm to 70's styled houses - having not given them much thought until recently. I guess it's a lot like S30Z's there was a period in the 90s where they were dated and somewhat uncool, but their timeless styling has made them more desirable again.

 

[kats]

Anything is welcome here Gavin !

I also think the old architecture is beautiful, I envy . Japanese 60’s And 70’s , they are not like that , Japan was glowing up it’s economy but most of people couldn’t have that kind of house . 

Kats

[kats]

If the green car is your 00051, that would be great!! 

No rear defroster, no OK sticker , and , all the glasses looked clear glass , to seeing the things through the glasses looked  just it is , non tinted . What do you think of it to compare your 00051 ? 

Kats 

PS : I took my ZG today for 500 km trip to see Mr. Yamamoto ( OK Racing ) very fun to drive , I feel this car is faster than my Z432 .  Maby the same if I judge them 

by the stop watch . But this L24 with SU /  5 speed with 3.9 rear diff , and the G nose .

These things make this car so fast and quiet , stable on the highway , and fun to steer on a mountain road . Mr. K must be smiling in his yellow G nose 240Z . Why did not Mr. K give a choice for customers as a variation model in the US  ? It should not be an optional parts , should be ? 

Cost matter ? Styling taste ? 

Japan is the only country where G nose is available with the car , some other destinations received as an optional parts . 

Kats

Edited October 12, 2018 by kats

[kats]

Which one do you like most ?

Mrs . Akita , her husband went to Italy in 1972 to buy this Dino as a new car from the Ferrari factory  , he passed away some years ago then now she owns it , she used to own Miura , Daytona before she married, so Dino is easy for her .

Her Dino and my ZG are almost same age , also almost same color . And , both cars are surviver , non restored cars .

Kats

[240260280]

WOW!

[Patcon]

I love the Dino, I almost bought one in high school, but when you look at it next to an S30, it's tiny! I would never fit in it. I think I will stick with my old Z cars instead.

[Gav240z]

Wow, it would be a shame to separate this pigeon pair. They belong together.

You'd be kicking yourself for selling a Miura though! What a car.