Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432

[scotta]

I have one of these stickers on the back of my JDM 1972 Fairlady z. The back panel has been resprayed by the previous owner, (original colour can been seen where some of it has cracked off). . I think they cut the sticker down at the same time. Probably because it was peeling off. 

 

 

[Gav240z]

On 11/17/2018 at 9:38 AM, kats said:

Thanks blue , I must add one thing , each car has each smell . I always feel “ USA “ every time I get in the orange 240Z. And I really like the smell . I can not say well enough, what makes me feel like that ? 

Maybe you are not realized , but  I am sure there is a certain smell in the US . Each time I opened the box bought eBay USA, , there was a smell which I like . It brings back good memories to me when I was at a flight training in Bakersfield California .

Supermarket , warehous , airport , everywhere.

Kats

Interesting, 1 thing I noticed about all my S30Z's is they have the same smell too! I always thought it was the smell of the vinyl and jute materials, coupled with the dashboard and interior plastics. I love the smell, it's takes me back to 1997 when I got my first 240z as a 17 year old boy who had worked with my uncle as a bricklayer over my summer holiday from school to pay for it. It's funny but I always worried that using reproduction materials wouldn't reproduce the same smell... I definitely think it's the aged vinyl, because I have a box with spare vinyl pieces and when I open it I get hit with the same smell.

My 70 is stuck in the garage without driver side door glass and rear hatch (so the interior is open to air) and as a result the smell has left it. However I suspect if I put the hatch back on and door glass etc.. and seal it back up, each time I open the door I'll be hit with that smell.

When I was in the US I opened the door on an HLS30 and noticed the same smell, not sure if the home market cars smell different? :)

[240260280]

In a 240z I restored:  replaced carpets, replaced all vinyl (including roof), replaced seat covers, sprayed all the plastic panels, sealed all holes in cabin, and had the painter spray the interior.... yet the Z smell prevailed.

I am thinking dash and wiring are big factors.

[kats]

Thanks siteunseen ! And the sound of opening hatch , I feel the same . Also closing the hatch is my favorite!

Kats

[kats]

On 11/18/2018 at 7:30 AM, scotta said:

I have one of these stickers on the back of my JDM 1972 Fairlady z. The back panel has been resprayed by the previous owner, (original colour can been seen where some of it has cracked off). . I think they cut the sticker down at the same time. Probably because it was peeling off. 

 

 

Thanks Mike B , and SSS-S30 , I also love the decal , it is reflective material at night , cool thing for the car .

Hi scotta , yes yours is the same !! Nice trimming.

Kats

[kats]

This is the picture when my ZG was on sale , ( numbers are hidden by the seller , this is usual thing in Japan ) 

you see the Kanji character “ SHINAGAWA “ that is the car registered in Tokyo Shinagawa district . 34 is showing the car was registered a long time ago , and 3 means over 2000 cc engine. Now we have 332 etc for the car like that .

And there is a white ring with a sealed cap for the license plate, this is also proving the car was registered a long time ago.

If I was a resident in Shinagawa area , my ZG could have the license plate as it is . That is very sad for me and the car , but I did not have any idea to remain the plate with the car , I had to registered it in my district.

Kats

 

 

[kats]

Hi blue and Gavin , thank you for the wonderful stories , you have same experience with me !

Good question about the smell of the car , I am sure my ZG , spending its whole life in Japan has a completely different smell . 

I am afraid to say this , my ZG has a kind  of MOLD of smelling. Probably, this is a normal Japanese old car ?

So , S30 car was made in Japan , but it became an American if a car was exported to the US . It must be true for every car , for every country around the world.

I have heard, people visit Japan can smell Soy sauce when they arrived at the Tokyo airport. I have never feel like that , maybe because I am Japanese .

On the other hand , every time My family trip to the US by US airline carriers , we become so excited when we walk through the boarding bridge in the Tokyo airport , we smell USA already!

Kats

Edited November 20, 2018 by kats

[dwarlick]

Hello All, 

I have recently completed a project that seems relevant to this thread.  My objective for my z432 tribute project was to as closely as possible replicate the z432 driving experience in a LHD configuration.  I started with a '72 chassis which underwent a full rotisserie restoration.  For the drive train I backdated a RB20det motor with Triple Mikuni's and dyno-tuned to 209 fwhp @ 8250rpm w/ 193 ft lb tq.  The motor was mated to the RB20 5 speed and a R192 4.44 LSD.  Brakes were changed to the MK63 calipers in the front.  The most challenging part of the project was getting the 10k RPM tachometer to work with the electronic ignition system.

When the weather improves I'll post more pictures.

Danny

 

Edited November 22, 2018 by dwarlick
add a pic

[kats]

Hi Danny , wow !!! You have done tremendous work on your Z ! 

What a beautifully done , and you said you put R192 , MK 63 , and even 10 x1000 Tach, I noticed Nissan badge too , I can see how hard that you have been collecting them . 

And you cleared the issue of the exhaust manifold, it must be a hand made , very nice . 

RB 20 DET is 4 valves per cylinder ,right ?

So your car is 4 valves, 3 carbs , 2 camshafts , like a Z432 . The difference between RB20 and S20 is a bore x stroke, 

78 x 69.7 RB20 ( L20 and VG20 too)

82 x 62.8 S20 

And yours are way powerful than stock S20 !

I would like to see your car’s movie .

Please keep going to show for us .

Thank you for the post , it is great !

Kats

 

[dwarlick]

 

 

 

Kats,  Thanks for the kind words.  The RB20 is 4 valve.  And they are cheap and plentiful.  I have an extra one standing by if this one blows up.  The manifold was modified from a RB header imported from NZ.  Here are a couple of videos.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 23, 2018 by dwarlick

[kats]

Danny ,

Sounds awesome!! I love the tunnel with

opening the windows, your RB20 is very well tuned , response is sharp and quick . .

What kind of ignition system do you use ? 

LHD S30 with DOHC , I have been thinking doing it but not any progress so far . You did it already !

I have heard RB series engines were only applied for RHD destinations due to the issue of the exhaust fabrication.

Is it true ? Only Japan , UK , Australia, New Zealand, etc ? 

Kats

Edited November 24, 2018 by kats

[dwarlick]

The ignition is a Megajolt with ford edis.  I mounted the coil pack to the inner fender to allow the plug wires to follow a similar route as the S20.  The RB was never sold in the US and I can't think of any LHD vehicles that have it.  Another option for DOHC would be the Datsunworks head.  http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/119641-twin-cam-head-for-the-l6-from-derek-at-datsunworks/