Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432

[240260280]

On 11/11/2008 at 3:18 PM, Carl Beck said:

The red car used in the 1969 US Sales Brochure was most likely HLS30 00002 or 00003. Most likely the same car used in the Factory Picture and Press Release Documents you provided. It looks like they were all from the same photo session of the same car.

The car in the Service Slide show - could be 00003 - as you have it marked at possibly going to the Service Dept. On the other hand it might be 00002 because the suspension components seem to be scuffed in the pictures - and 00002 is listed as being Test Driven by Shatai

Fun to try to figure this out...

FWIW,

Carl B.

 

Hi @kats & @Carl Beck,

 

I do think the red car is HLS30-00003. Here are two interesting images from the first FSM with the red car.

Do you see a number written in two locations? ?

 

Edited May 23, 2019 by 240260280

[Mike B]

10 hours ago, 240260280 said:

I do think the red car is HLS30-00003. Here are two interesting images from the first FSM with the red car.

Do you see a number written in two locations? ?

I think you're reading too much into the numbers shown on the back of the dash.  My HLS30-00210 had "No 3" written on the top of the inner fender.  That didn't mean my car was HLS30-00003 either.  I think these numbers were some kind of code, possibly inspection marks. I'm attaching a photo that Kats posted from an early JDM parts catalog that shows similar markings on either end of the inner rock panel:  "No 2" on the left and some other writing and an arrow probably pointing to an area needing some more work on the right.  My car also had some kanji writing on the door and quarter panel which I think were also notes about some more finishing work that was needed before being painted.

[Mike B]

Here's a photo of the writing on the door of my HLS30-00210 after the paint was stripped off.

[26th-Z]

I seriously doubt that the script "No" means 'number' in the language of a Japanese factory worker.  Thanks for the pictures.

[240260280]

With respect to the early Red Z in the first FSM.  Some of the unique parts were photographed and documented.  Here is that  fuel return part that was first on the fuel bowl then moved to the rail. I wonder if the design and/or part was taken from the twin SU roadster or 510 SS?

 

 

 

The different fuel pump routing is also captured in the FSM:

 

 

Edited May 24, 2019 by 240260280

[Mike B]

5 hours ago, 26th-Z said:

I seriously doubt that the script "No" means 'number' in the language of a Japanese factory worker.  Thanks for the pictures.

Sure Chris, glad to provide you with plenty of pictures, as always.  Where exactly in my post did I say that 'No" means 'number' in the language of a Japanese factory worker?  If you read my post you'll see I said I think the writing is some sort of code, possibly inspection marks, similar to the photos of the circled number '3' that blue posted.  I don't believe either markings are related to the VIN of the car.

[26th-Z]

Completely agree.  Inspection marks, messages, part ID / process ID, a number of different things.  Not, in my estimation, related to chassis VIN.  Is it my eyesight, or are the arrowed numbers in Blue's gauge pictures reversed?

[kats]

Thank you Blue , MikeB , and Chris .

I see ③ on the two places , they are LHD dash board, so the picture is no reversed .

I think it is very Japanese people-ish 

that writing ③ , people always tend to write numbwr in a circle when we want to mean “ numbering “ . 

( I can show here ③ easily because my keyboard is for Japanese language ) 

Also , it is very natural for Japanese people that we use  “ No “

for “ number “ , this is numbering too .

However , it is a little bit abrupt that we think the ③ on the dash would mean HLS30- 00003 . 

It doesn’t have to be HLS30-00003 ‘s dash for the service manual ‘s photo example. 

The dash could be pulled from a shelf where newly assembled dash boards standing-by for the installation.

Kats

 

[kats]

Hi , I will replace a rear deck glass of my Z432 with a NOS one soon , I have got this when I flew the place and brought it back home with my plane. 

I am so glad that the defroster works perfect, the glass passed the operation test . It is my style , boiled water under the glass .

Kats

[kats]

I will make a replica of this label , this can be seen in the test car of US and Canada in late 1969 .

Kats

[kats]

Here is the car which I am talking about .

Kats

[Gav240z]

Nice Kats, love the idea of recreating the old genuine part sticker too. Looks like you carried that glass with you through the airport lounge.

I'm glad I'm not the only 1 who carries car parts with me on international flights. :D