Datsun-240z Vs Fairlady-z432

[kats]

16 hours ago, hr369 said:

 

Kats, this one sold back in january and was "rebuilt" but they didn't give an engine builders name in the auction.

If his is rebuildable then he's got about  30k usd to pay an engine builder if you compare it to this one.

Do you know Uchida Motor Works in Tokyo?  Pictures on his website show quite a few s20 engines in his shop.

http://victory50.com/index2.html

 

He is quite the fabricator. Do you see the cable driven tach adaper he made for the s20?

I'de be curious as to what he charges for a complete rebuild.

Hi hr369,I have been there a few times. Mr.Uchida is very passionate for Hakosuka , I wish he becomes more being interested in S30, but yes he is very busy on Hakosuka.  I think he does nice work and price is reasonable.

Kats

Edited November 15, 2016 by kats

[kats]

Hi Alan,

Thank you so much , I take your comment and I keep remain the parts as it is , not follow the manual.

I think this is woderful ! we are leaning every day, we are finding correct thing even Nissan does not know.

I was thinking same thing Alan, I really felt natural to seeing my mounting parts, and I really liked those special parts only for Z432.

If I did the work without seeing the picture of the service manual, I definitly would assemble the distance piece

between the spacer shim and the mount .  

If the distance piece was really need to be touched to the aluminium case, also need to be a certain distance, I think enqineering designers would just make it longer about 2mm. 

Then  you do not need to have the spacer shim like you said , Alan.

Every Z432 I saw has this muonting style, I attached 3 pictures of Mr.Watanabe's , Z432 at Mega web Odaiba, and

the 31000USD yahoo auction S20.

This leads to me remember a story of cracking problem of the transmission rear case when Z432 was in a race track back in 1970-1971.  Some Nissan factory racers told us  ''it was very notorious the vibration of Z432-R's

transmission, sometimes it cracked...''

So, I think this could be the cause, the distance piece damaged the aluminium transmission case in a very high speed and much stressed situation.

Can we say we found the reason of that?

The last picture is my another spare FS5C71A which has totally cracked in two pieces

Kats

Edited November 15, 2016 by kats

[kats]

New rear case, just in case .

My Z432 is now on a lift at Kyoto Nissan, previous transmission was taken off , a replacement one must be on the car tonight .

Kats

[kats]

Previous one has gold plated shift arm, new one's is black.

I think original color is cream white for the arm.

Once the spacer was located as a service manual yesterday, then I told a mechanic disregard last my request, get back just like as it was soon after I saw Alan posted here, thank you Alan.

Gas leakage was found on the center maffler , must be welded soon. 

And I changed a shift boot 3 times for this Z432. My 1970 240Z has still the one was new in 2000. Too much heat ? Or oil leakage damaged the rubber? 

Kats

[kats]

Replacing job has completed , the mechanic in the photo is Mr.Okajima , he is young but very skilled man.His toy is 1974 Ken-meri Skyline.

I recommend maintenance at Nissan is very good  if there is a mechanic who has good experience of an old car

Kats

 

[kats]

They let me use some tools to disassemble the previous transmission, they are very generous for amateurs.

This project was started to find a reason of oil leak around the center maffler. 

I noticed a steel tube which is working with clutch release bearing was loosen and turning.

and two pins under the shift control arm, O rings did not do their job, so a lot of oil leaked from there.

kats

[kats]

Center maffler and rear maffler were painted, Pitwork brand heat proof silver is the most duarable paint I think.

Please note exhaust tube cramps , there are two types, one hole and . two holes.

Kats

 

Edited November 18, 2016 by kats

[kats]

Z432-R  BRACKET-horn ,

Alan, I was not for sure its part number while we were talking about, but I was feeling I might see it before.

And here it is, I found it in Air-conditioning section. There is no illustration , only a description.

It does not indicate for "PZR" , it says "(op.) ALL" , but we see E7200 as a model designation.

I think this bracket was originally made for PZR( Z432-R) because it has got E7200 as a part number.

We need to see more examples to confirm its true shape.

Kats

Edited November 28, 2016 by kats

[HS30-H]

16 minutes ago, kats said:

Z432-R  BRACKET-horn ,

Alan, I was not for sure its part number while we were talking about, but I was feeling I might see it before.

And here it is, I found it in Air-conditioning section. There is no illustration , only a description.

It does not indicate for "PZR" , it says "(op.) ALL" , but we see E7200 as a model designation.

I think this bracket was originally made for PZR( Z432-R) because it has got E7200 as a part number.

We need to see more examples to confirm its true shape.

Kats

 

 

Hello Kats,

Excellent detective work! I was looking in the earlier parts lists, so I didn't see the number there. Clearly they missed a few things out from the first versions and included them in the later editions. I feel happier about bending my horn mount brackets to clear the PZR oil cooler now... 

Was great to see you at Oppama on Saturday, and then again yesterday at the Club S30 20-year meeting. Always so fun and interesting to talk with you, and so happy to see your car again. I hope you got home OK after that long drive.  

Best wishes,
Alan T.

 

[kats]

Zcar fiesta at Oppama factory

I spent wonderful time with so many Zcar owners .Total 900miles driving was pretty happy , but on the way home was in a heavy rain, my Z432 likes rain...

 Mr. Matsuo is doing well , he said he and some design teem members made a world round trip just after finishing S30 styling ( it was late 1968) . Nissan gave this prize to designers who's work became production model. The trip for visiting world's famous motor show.

That was a special treatment , Mr. Matsuo was not for sure that his request was accepted or not, because usually a few motor shows were considered . But he made a bid, he requested Paris , London, Frankfurt, Milano,  Newyork  and the last one  was Los Angels. His request was accepted!

Mr.Matsuo met Mr.K in LA , he showed a photo of 2+2 prototype to Mr.K , Mr.K was amaized about it but he was told "forget about making 2+2 for now , I want the 2 seater as soon as possible! "

Kats

PS The green S30 and the gentleman next to it is Mr. Kawashima, he rebuilt transmission for my Z432.

Edited November 28, 2016 by kats

[kats]

56 minutes ago, HS30-H said:

Hello Kats,

Excellent detective work! I was looking in the earlier parts lists, so I didn't see the number there. Clearly they missed a few things out from the first versions and included them in the later editions. I feel happier about bending my horn mount brackets to clear the PZR oil cooler now... 

Was great to see you at Oppama on Saturday, and then again yesterday at the Club S30 20-year meeting. Always so fun and interesting to talk with you, and so happy to see your car again. I hope you got home OK after that long drive.  

Best wishes,
Alan T.

 

Thank you too, we were all looking forward to meeting you Alan, I could not talk enough what I wanted to, must be next time.

Kats

 

Edited November 28, 2016 by kats

[Marine240z]

Kats, that's some serious Z porn there.  I am in the last stages of a complete refurbish of my 72 and will be posting the entire process soon.  It has been a labor of love and I am fortunate to have the assistance of Rolly the " Zombie" Alberto personally assisting my endeavor.

Rolly is one of the foremost authorities on 4-6 cylinder engines and has built and raced some of the best cars while in the Philippines.  He builds drifters and can get every available HP out of his engines.  He is in Houston now and watching him work is like watching Rembrandt paint.  

Can't wait to post the result for the Z community.

Lon