25230-e4100

[RICK HUNTER]

:)hello all ! i am new here and was wondering if anyone can help me out:)

i own 71 240z and was wondering if anyone knows if this relay 25230-e4100 has anything to with starting ? it is located on the right (pass) side where your legs would be. sometimes the car wont fire up and i can here this thing clicking ! i got power and can hear the electric fuel pump pumping away...

any help would be greatly appreciated !!

thanks

[e_racer1999]

it's not the relay clicking. it's the starter. sounds like your starter's going out

[DaveN]

25230-E4100 is for the hatch glass heater.

[Carl Beck]

Put another way - you usually do not hear the starter relay click - because at the same instant you hear the starter solenoid kick the starter in.. or try too. So if you hear the relay, it's usually OK.

The first thing to do is remove and clean the battery terminals. Just because they might look good on visual inspection - doesn't mean they are. So take them off, clean the terminals on the cables and the battery until you see clean shiny lead.

Next check the battery water and then put the battery on a charger and make sure it is fully charged.

Next reattach the terminals and make sure they are tight and making solid contact.

If at that point the starter will not turn over - it's time to pull the starter and take it to be checked... Most major auto parts stores can do that for you.... call a few in your area before going...

FWIW,

Carl B.

[e_racer1999]

carl put it the way i shoulda, but i didn't have time

[RICK HUNTER]

thanks eberybody :classic: i'll try that out.

[RICK HUNTER]

ok, starter & battery check out good, but the engine still doesnt crank over until about the third try....click....click...click.....vroooom ! even after the car is running i shut it off & try to fire it right back up...click....click...VROOOOM !

...any suggestions ? could it be the electrical part on the ignition switch ?

[hd240z]

Here is a link to a couple of more possibilities that have come up in past discussions (Ignition switch problems and a relay addition)

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27186&highlight=starter+relay

Hope it helps

[EScanlon]

Rick:

If the "click" you are referring to when starting the car (or re-starting) is from the Accesory Relay clicking on and off repeatedly, and I'd bet on the Ignition Switch being the culprit.

It's not unusual for those to go bad, and have the contact portion of the switch rotate in relation to the housing farther than the Ignition Lock allows rotation and therefore provide poor or no electrical contact to the starter. The solution is to replace the ignition switch.

This is one of those switches that would be next to impossible to open up to clean contacts and re-build.

FWIW

E

[KDMatt]

Wait a second, isn't it possible that the starter or solenoid could be going bad?

In my mind, if he's hearing the relay clicking that would mean the the ignition switch is holding up its end of the bargain, but something is getting lost past the relay itself.

Is it possible that the solenoid is a bit sticky? ... or that maybe the 'click' IS the solenoid and that the starter motor is going south?

[RICK HUNTER]

thanks to all :classic: i just discovered the "search" function !

i replaced the electrical part of the ignition switch, craaanking everytime now:smoke:

[sblake01]

See post #9.