Luck at the junk yard!!!

[KDMatt]

Im 19, i never stole before.....

I'm 20, never stole before.

At age 19 he's too young to know Ratt's song "Round and Round". Crap music but true lyrics.

Hey, I don't know what you're talking about, that song is AMAZING!

[nism0zed]

well i reckon everyone is over reacting.

its somewhat comparable to the media jumping on a political figure who smoked a bong 30 years ago.

He may have admitted to it, to try and relate to the youth of today, But the media and 'public' (as in the Public figure that people portray when out amongst society) all of a sudden forget all the little things they have done wrong in live, and are suddenly the saints that feel that its their right to judge them.

Wake up to yourselves. You are not pure. You are not perfect. Just keep your mouths shut.

If everyone had instead ignored the first post, It would have faded into oblivion, and the poster may have sensed the feeling of being shunned for his actions, perhaps choosing to learn a life lesson from it. Instead now we have 2 pages of people being high and mighty (sorry if i offend a few with that remark)

I knew a bloke who moved to our school, I knew his rep (quite a few of us did) from his old school, He was infamous for doing rude and destructive things, and usually got a lot of attention (good and bad) from it, so he kept doing it.

He tried it at our school, got a few laughs from some people, but the majority just ignored him, Wouldn't look at him, speak to him, anything.

He clued up pretty quickly that its a pretty lonely world on your own, so he changed his attitude, and earned some respect. He's an assistant manager at maccas now (25yr old), and while that might not seem like much, he was voted most likely to end up dead or in jail by age 21 at the end of school.

As i said before, I would have stolen it.

And i used lots of drugs in my youth, and stole a car or two, Got into fights, stole things from shops, hung with the wrong crowd ect ect.

Im way past that now. Im a law abiding citizen, i have a family, a good job, several cars, but i allways remember my past, It helps me to deal with life, I am still amazed by people who have never experienced the darker side of life, and how naive it makes them.

They also seem to be the same ones who dont understand what its like to try and raise a family with little to no money each week, not eating for 2-3 days straight so your child has food, rummaging in bins, Asking for handouts, borrowing money for simple things like toilet paper and bread.

Anyway, enough of my drivel.

Im sure he's learned something from it, whether good or bad, its irrelevant. Its his journey, and he needs to learn his own way.

I would suggest people just ignore it and let it go away

[hls30.com]

Ok, Wingo,

I think there is a distinct difference between hiding someones trash with a public history to keep it from being destroyed(even with a salvage value) until a legal change in ownership to benefit the public can be explored, and taking something that is for sale for personal use.

It would have been very interesting to see the EV1 done that way...

Will

[Sailor Bob]

Hey Nizmozed - That's a little contradiction isn't it "I'm a law abiding citizen" and "I would have stolen it" - it can only be one or the other, stealing is against the law.

[EScanlon]

NismoZed;

The similarity to a public official who smoked a bong 30 years ago and is publicly lambasted to Fabian's admission of a recent theft may be more in your willingness to ignore the wrong than anything else.

Fabian stole an item and then posted it here, bragging about the deed and apparently expecting PRAISE! At that point he impugned the rest of us, with his presumption that it would be "accepted". With the obvious exception of those who admit that they think he did a "good" thing, the response has been negative. Maybe that's what you intended to say with your reference to the public official. What may have at one time been seen as "acceptable" has yet to attain enough "blasé-ness" to be ignored. People STILL expect their public officials to be held to a higher code of ethics than the average bear.

Your suggestion that we just "ignore it and let it go away" is probably the most inane comment yet, amongst the others of the same nature.

Let's ignore ANY kind of wrong-doing, after all if the receiver doesn't get attention then they won't do it again! R-I-I-I-I-GHT.

Thieves TREASURE silence. If no one notices that a theft has occurred, then it's perfectly possible to do it again....after all, nobody is willing to take note.

If you see a person breaking into your neighbor's house....ignore the culprit and maybe he won't come back for YOUR house next time. Heck, if he knows you saw him and are IGNORING him....he'll feel so bad that he'll back out and not rob the place. Ignore him with a sniff in your nose and he might even come back and replace the window he broke. R-iiiiiiiight!

Ignoring his post by those of us who consider his actions reprehensible would not have had any of the consequences you suggest. This isn't a site visited in-person, it's a "virtual" clubhouse. There may be people who have and will continue to ignore the post....do you have any idea of how many? Not at all. So the "negative reception" factor you cite....only in your imagination and definitely not in his. Remember, he expected and DID receive some praise...yours amongst them.

His further "justifications" just go to show that he was and is not willing to accept any wrong in his actions. Comments like yours and Dave's only help to bolster his view that he was correct. He isn't.

What any of us DID, or MIGHT have done in the past is irrelevant as long as what we DO and WILL do in the future are guided by morés that respect people's rights.

You cite a prior history with "the darker side", I'm willing to bet that your employer may not know about that. How about your wife? Sometimes, it's far better that people do NOT know about the darker things we've done....because we're ashamed of them and of the repercussions they have. That's why you're seeing such a back lash.

I'm also willing to bet that if one of your children came home and told you how he was planning on ripping something off from a store because he didn't have enough money, you'd stop him! Or if the neighbor kid had decided that you no longer deserved one of your cars because he needed it more than you....you won't call the cops will you?

Better yet, will you ignore him as he bashes out the windows on all your other cars, hoping he gets the message you send out by ignoring him?

Some of us HAVE experienced the "dark" side of life....and from that experience is why we would help others AVOID that. It is from those experiences that we can speak from authority. The naïveté you cite comes from willingly IGNORING those experiences and refusing to help others avoid the pitfalls they will encounter.

So, from your recollection of an individual who is now 25, when you were in school, it places your age at no more than 29, and more than likely the same age. Let's see if adding 15 - 20 years of life won't change your attitude....especially after your kids will be Fabian's age doing the same thing. Will you then IGNORE it? Probably not.

E

[ChrisA]

What any of us DID, or MIGHT have done in the past is irrelevant as long as what we DO and WILL do in the future are guided by morés that respect people's rights.

Damm straight, good post E!

[BRE-240Z]

Damm straight, good post E!

I agree completely. But the fact is that anybody who would steal something and then brag about it on an internet forum is not the type of person who has much in the way of personal mores and values. We're not going to change his mind.

In that light, it is worth remembering that there is an 'ignore' feature on this forum. A few of the people who have contributed to this thread have recently made mine.

[e_racer1999]

....A few of the people who have contributed to this thread have recently made mine.

i hope i'm not one....

[sblake01]

Hell, the original poster of this thread is on my ignore list. The only was I see his posts is when he's quoted. Now, if I could only learn to ignore the threads posted by those on my list.

[geezer]

Great post E. You do have a way with words and get your point across very effectively. Hopefully what you and others have said will be taken to heart by the original poster and anyone else who can't see the "wrong".

Myself, I don't believe in using the ignore feature in this case. Not yet. Why shut someone out until it is proven they are incapable of changing their mind or view of what they have done. I have known many kids who started with the wrong foot forward and given the time, attention and yes the understanding, turned out to be people of character that today I am proud to say I know. I would rather help someone up before I knock them down!

[albert_ey]

Haha, this is too funny... sblake01, yes it did take a severe left turn and crashed... hahaha!

I would have just payed for it, kharma is a b**ch. I wouldn't want to risk it.

How expensive could it have come out too. Come on.

[nism0zed]

EScanlon, My wife DOES know about my past, She helped me to get away from it and avoid ending up in jail.

My employer knows about it too.

I work with trouble kids (with a group of other adults), and help them to understand how tough life can be, and that there is a better way. I can tell you know, they dont respond to anyone who seems perfect, like they have never been in trouble.

I dont need to justify myself to you, Nor anyone here, because no matter what is said, my life goes on.

Just for your interest thieves DONT treasure silence, If they have no one to brag to, the actions stop pretty quickly. Usually they find confidence in bragging to their friends, In this case, i would say that the original poster saw this forum as a place filled with friends, and chose to tell his story.

Unfortunately for him that was a mistake, and i can assure you he wont post something like that up here again due to the reaction.

if his personal friends give the same reaction, or ignore it completely, then he wont tell them either, and the behavior will most likely cease.

and yea, Im 28.