October 14, 200717 yr comment_224548 graet alloys you are having on that Z! they are really lusty!replace the hoses, at the end it wasn't a waste of time and energy removing the fuel rail. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr Author comment_224551 ya its a clean z. just workin on gettin it runnin it need to shock the inectors... will they make a noise when i shock them so i know they opened or closed/ Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224557 graet alloys you are having on that Z! they are really lusty!replace the hoses, at the end it wasn't a waste of time and energy removing the fuel rail.Those are 15 inch ZX Turbo rims. Some people call the the 'Swastika' wheels. I really dont understand what he's saying about the injectors. Corrao, did you unscrew the injector holders and lift the entire rail with the injectors intact? If so, why? You could have tested the injectors (lose that term 'shock') without doing all of that. If you mess up those insulators when you reinstall the rail/injectors you'll have leaks that you didn't have before. If you put power to the injectors with the rail in place you'll hear a click. Like I said before, and I have a lot more experience with this than the others who have responded, don't put 12 volts to them. I don't care how many times BuDavid says he's done this. He also has more experience than you. 12 volts on those coils inside the injectors for too long will fry them and you will need to buy new ones. I'm betting that there's nothing wrong with your injectors and you're presently involved in doing some needless work. Don't make it worse. Put it back together if you haven't screwed it up already and TEST THE FUEL PRESSURE! 7+ years of sitting with gas in the tank is your problem. The car will not start without adequate fuel pressure. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224560 oh my god corrao! from your last post I have the feeling that you will destroy the injector.. I told you that would be the last thing that you should do, do the steps that Stephen told you before, check the signal first.. don't do anything with them, I feel sorry telling you about shocking them.. Stephen, I'm aware of what I've done before, I know the electrical basics regarding solenoids, I did it based on my knowladge, I also cautioned him before not to do it without being experienced with it.. corrao, please don't do what I told you unless you have lower voltage supply, coz I have the feeling that you don't know how fast you should connect it. and BTW, they don't make a bang, they just knock or click, that would be more correct (my bad english).. almost like a spark plug when sparks outside the chamber.. do what Stephen is telling you step by step.. he is a very good EFI guy.. don't rush, waste a minute to save an hour of a mess! you don't want to buy a new injector because som missunderstanding a post.. I'm just trying to help, I didn't mean to harm.. thank you Stephen for clearing up the point. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr Author comment_224563 ok well im readin this now after havin pull the rail up enough to see the ends of the injectors... and non of them spit anythign... so either there all bad or its a pressure issure so wheni get paid this week ima get a pressure guage to through into the line and then ill let you all know what its sitting at. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224564 use a volt meter and check the signal coming to the injectors, this is an easy step that wont harm..or at least you'll feel the clicking while holding the injector with bare hand. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224570 Mohamed, don't misunderstand. All I really meant is that you have the experience to know how long to apply voltage to the injector and Corraro is inexperienced with the EFI system. He probably doesn't know the fine line between testing the injector with 12 volts and destroying the injector with 12 volts. You and I both have the experience to know the difference. And I'm just making sure that he understands that. I have no problem understanding your English. My family is from Guyana, South America so I've had a lifetime of hearing English that is different from what's considered to be normal in the U.S. I understand what you say better than I understand some people that were born and raised here. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224575 Stephen, absolutly no hard feelings from my side.. I respect the way you explain, it was my mistake to jump in with that idea that fast. but I didn't expect such a quick responsethat's why I withdrawed my suggestion of using 12V when I noticed later.. I should be carefull next time give those hints.. that was good that you followed it up.corrao, this is a good example of learning without doing a mistake.you can ask about it or try it on a leaky worthless injector that no one needs, you can notice how it works without risking your injectors.good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr Author comment_224578 well it seems like the injectors arent doin anything. were can i check the power source to them? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr Author comment_224580 oh and i did the 9 volt battery to the injectors no clicks nothing... not sure if the whole lil creation needed to be soldered together like yours looked but wires on each prong runnin to + and - on the 9 volt did nothing so i dont know ill prolly end up havin a mechanic do it all... i just wanted to give it a shot on my own to try and learn but i guess i need to hear instructions and see it done before people tellin me on here is gonna help. thanks anyway everyone. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 14, 200717 yr comment_224587 I think even a 9V can harm if the source is capable to produce a high current..you just have to touch the terminal within a blink, not connecting them..an electrician can help..but be carefull, the injector holds fuel inside, it is not always empty:)and the signal can be checked from the plug that goes to the injector that has two terminals. be carefull with electronics, you can spoil them if you don't know how to deal with them ok.good luck.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 15, 200717 yr Author comment_224615 anyone know if theres a fuse inside the car controling the injectors? i dont have the panel cover to know what is what Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25840-starting-issue/?&page=5#findComment-224615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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