October 16, 200717 yr Author comment_224789 does anybody know this Z? or lives close to it?http://www.classiczcars.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=2031&cat=1looks nice.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224813 dogma420, first of all, thanks for the compliments about my car. It's no show car by any means. I do my best to keep it clean and mechanically/electrically sound. As far as the four speed/five speed thing goes, I done quite a bit of research on them. Not only the Z/ZX/Maxima trans but many of the 4 cyl transes as well. And I've had several of them apart. You would be hard pressed to actually feel the differences in ratios between a 72 four speed and a 77-79 five speed. The differences are slight and perhaps this is why people contend that they are the same but they are not. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224814 whatever you do, i'd say go for an az/cali car. chances are, there won't be rust, but massive amounts of dust (especially for an az car)Having shopped for Z-cars and Roadsters in Arizona and Southern California, I feel compelled to say that there are very few 'rust-free' cars. "Ready for paint" usually meant it needs paint... right after finishing the rust repair. There were many sellers claiming the car is rust-free. But a close inspection revealed that virtually all had significant amounts of rust. I really wonder about some seller's eyes or ethics.The one good example I found, I bought. And it wasn't for $2500 either.Yes, do shop in these states and other southern states. Just don't assume that all Z-cars are rust-free. Request pictures of all critical areas. Then have someone familiar with Z-Cars inspect it.In my opinion, it would take months to find a worthy car.AlPS. No offense intended to the quoted poster. I just feel obligated to comment on my experience. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224816 A S30 is a S30. Sure they got a little heavier as they aged and I'm with you Bu, I wish I could do the 240 bumper swap on my 280. Other than that I wouldn't change a thing. The FI is simple and effective and like Sailor-Bob says, pulls very good. 100mph with 5 speed. That being said I would really like to get a 240 and drop in a 280/5speed combo. I bet it would really fly then! I don't envy the choice you have to make and I feel your pain about selling your Z. I've been close a couple of times (money trouble). Whatever you decide, you are going to love it and don't sell it. We can always get more money, but Zs are quickly becoming a thing of the past. Best regards, Dan Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224818 As for the trannie ratios, Stephen is right. Ever since I put in my 5 speed my 1st gear burouts have not been as spectacular, but that 2300 rpm at 60mph cruising speed is great! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr Author comment_224819 ok, some small rust spots can be accepted, but not that CANCER type rust the eats the panels and mainly the floors + chassis, I need it to pass the technical control of the traffic department as soon I bring it..I don't say that I should get one for 2500$, but I've seen some Z's that cost 10000$ and more.. which I think that this isn't my range for an import..I have to pay for sipping and insurace, I can go for max. of 6000$ as an X Z owner, I really don't like to have worse can that I had. because I'll keep on regreting selling the previous one!I need a better one:cry:having my Silver 280 really cured me from the 280ZX that I sold before for my travelling/study purpose since it was an S30 and in much better shape (much less rust) almost 98% rust free! Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224821 Mohamed - In my humble (and I do mean that) opinion 77 was a great year and therefor I would look at something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-Datsun-280Z-53k-orig-miles_W0QQitemZ260171268961QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6187QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Another reason the 280 is a good choice is that they are still available at excellent prices - if this ad is correct it is low milage with original paint - Nevada car (with A/C). Like I said earlier - I love them all, but in my quest to get a good 240 I have found that the good ones (out of the gate) are getting "expensive" and the ones that are attainable need mucho $$$ (so, still expensive). I am actively checking out three 240s right now that are under 5K and they are: 1/2 decent with body damage c/w numerous personal changes, good inside with twenty pounds of bondo and ? frame and excellent VIN but the tag is holding it together. If your in the market for original it will be costly. Like yourself I am dealing with heavy shipping charges and not being there to personally assess the car. So my advise to you is get LOTS of pictures befor you commit to a purchase (you could pretty well use the Zhome info to guide the search for rot). Low miles are good (if real - if only they had the 100K + odometer). 240 vs 280 well... you know and definately South western United States is most likely/best odds of finding what you are looking for. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr Author comment_224823 well, that Z look great!I really don't care if the car is too original, what I wan is original equipment and auxiliaries, no problem if the engine was swapped like if it was a 240 with an L28 block in it...I don't need pictures to make sure that that Z is good, I have a friend in Texas who can check the Z for me and ship it also.. but that guy is a corvette guy, so I'm not sure weather he'll know what to look for on a Z, that's why I'd rather confirm it with a club member or at least an owner who knows how handle Z's!thanks Bob. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr comment_224824 Maybe I should sell him mine, it's getting kind of expensive to fix, and it needs a head job, I think. Just had a lot done other than that... Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 16, 200717 yr Author comment_224826 you'll regret selling itLOL Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 200717 yr comment_224953 I have found the best condition Zs are coming from California or Arizona - I think the coastal regions of Texas have more rust issues (hurricanes and floods don't help either). Biggest Z issue would have to be body rust - for me if I can get a solid body I can figure out the rest.During the 70's I lived in Texas near Corpus Christi on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico. The high humidity was rough on cars. I agree with Sailor Bob that CA and AZ cars are probably your best bet. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
October 17, 200717 yr Author comment_224991 ok 5150, I'll focus on those locations.. and let me know if there is any which is worth it..I mentioned Texas just because of that I friend can handle the shipping process and do the deal in person.. thanks for the advice.. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/25844-so-im-planning-to-get-an-s30-z-240-or-280/?&page=5#findComment-224991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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