side markers yes or no?

[Arne]

Dave and Arne... I really like the multi-function that you are doing on the side markers. The older I get, the more I feel that I need to be 'seen' as well as to 'see'.... not for vanity, but for safety. You guys going to be marketing those or publishing a "how-to"?

I've got one more pair of adapters left from the initial run. I suppose I could be talked out of them. They will only work on 240Zs with normal bulbs (not LEDs), and the sidemarker housing MUST be properly insulated from the fender. So the metal reflector must be inserted into the groove in the big rubber base gasket, not mounted between the gasket and the body (as I've seen done on some cars).

The theory is not complex, and wouldn't be tough to do with wire taps and crimp connectors, if you wanted. But -- like the alternator adapter before it -- I designed this to require no modifications or changes to the factory wiring. Totally plug in. Clean, simple, and 100% reversible.

As for the possibility of future production, I suppose that depends on the interest...

[240dkw]

As for the possibility of future production, I suppose that depends on the interest...

Arne: You can put me down for one if you decide to make a few.

Dan

[Zs-ondabrain]

OK OK here it is.......

I've discussed it with Arne and here's what we have decided to do. The SCP is TOTALLY Arnes's Brainchild. He may not be the inventor as I've seen it done elsewhere but It was Arne who got with me and discussed a prototype strictly for the 240Z's.

The New Product is called the SCP which is short for Sidemarker Conversion Plug. It consist of 2) "T" type harness's that are only about 2.5" long and are placed into your parking light plug (in front of the radiator) via OEM style Datsun Plugs, just like my Headlight Upgrade Harness and there is one SCP per side. One for the left sidemarker and one for the right sidemarker.

The SCP order will consist of 2) conversion plugs, one per side, and a single wire per SCP with a female bullet connector that connects into one of 2 the sidemarker wires located near each parking light plug, on each side..

This is an easy instal and takes less than 10 minutes. The only thing that will slow you down is dirty wires and the lack of being able to see what color your sidemarker wires are. Other than that, it's a breeze to instal.

The important part of the instal is making sure that each of your sidemarkers must be isolated from the body. As Arne mentioned earlier, "They will only work on 240Zs with normal bulbs (not LEDs), and the sidemarker housing MUST be properly insulated from the fender. So the metal reflector must be inserted into the groove in the big rubber base gasket, not mounted between the gasket and the body (as I've seen done on some cars)"

The price is $25 I will be making them for Arne and paying him from the money I recieve from the orders. But your cash, check or money order needs to be sent to me along with the order. I DO NOT AND CANNOT ACCEPT PAYPAL. Canadian orders, please add $5 to the $25 price. All other orders outside the continental US, please email me first.

Please Email me with your questions and for ordering info. For all those who have ordered a Headlight or Parking light Upgrade harness or even a ZXP (Arnes other baby) or any of my other upgrades or services, the address is still the same, the form of payment is the same and the orders will be send Via USPS First Class Mail. First class will be used in order to keep prices down. If you would like your order shipped using Priority mail, there will be another $5 added to the $25 price.

I've also decided on a $2 discount for each order of 2 or more. (2 orders will be $46, 3 orders will be $69, etc, etc.) Please Keep in mind that not only do these add the "Cool factor" but will seriously increase the SAFETY Factor while being used. Drivers to your left and right WILL see your sidemarkers blink and this will decrease the chance of a "I did'nt know he was turning" excuse.

Not to "TOOT" my own horn but these are a great compliment to my Parking light harness. As your side markers will be brighter after installing my parking light harness, the SCP will now make that brighter sidemarker blink, increasing the "Visability Factor of you and Your Z. Period. PLH info is in my signature.

Dave

w/ quotes and help from Arne.

[Arne]

Thanks for the announcement, Dave.

I want to add that this is not new technology, millions of GM cars and trucks built in the '70s did this exact thing for the front sidemarkers. Having the front markers flash really increases the visibility of your turn signals. Even though the turn signals on a 240Z wrap around the corner of the car, they are very low to the ground, even on stock height cars like mine. The flashing sidemarkers are vastly more visible.

Once installed, the markers will flash in sync with the signals if the parking lights are off, and opposite if the parking lights are on.

Just like for the alternator plug, soon I'll post a pdf instruction sheet (with pictures) on my website.

[Zs-ondabrain]

And here is Arne's Forum for those who would like more info on the subject. The picture of the SCP's are in post #2 of the link.

http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=28729

[beandip]

When I was redoing my Z I contemplated removing the marker lights, I really like the clean look without them. I decided to keep the lights because of the lack of visibility from the sides at night. I also want to do the turn signal mod. I think a good compromise on these markers is to use the Euro clear lenses with colored bulbs. Gary

[janaka]

I personally like them on the car. I think its becuase not a lot of cars have them and they catch my eye whenever I drive... also the safety aspect is good considering I'd go to jail if I got in an accident (from killing the SOB that hit me)...

i say keep them

[HotRod-Z]

Excellent add on to the Parking Light Harness. Spending cash on the Z doesn't hurt near as much when it adds safety as well as "cool factor" Order will be placed tomorrow. Thanks for the ingenuity guys!!!

[HotRod-Z]

"or even a ZXP (Arnes other baby)"

What is a ZXP?

[Arne]

What is a ZXP?

http://www.classiczcars.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=11&cat=7

[e_racer1999]

i like the side markers, but i'm probably going to go with the hyundai conversion. there's a current thread on side markers over on hybridz

[Zs-ondabrain]

The ZXP is the 280ZX alternator adaptor for installing the 60 AMP internally regulated 280ZX alternator into a 240Z. It's only $15 and Arne got me to do the prototype on that as well as the SCP (Sidemarker Conversion Plug)

The Headlight Relay Upgrade harness is known as the HLH ($125)

The Parking light relay Upgrade Harness is the PLH.($45)

The Combo/turn signal service is known as the CTS ($45)

The ZXP as mentioned above is ($15)

The Taillight LED Conversion is the TLC and it's ($250)

The Sidemarker conversion is the SCP ($25)

It's always easier to give a short 3 letter name when the products keep piling up. Makes the shorthand esier as well.

Dave.