Posted December 6, 200717 yr comment_230570 1975 280z will not crank,mechanic told me i need to replace mass air flow meter.Do I need to reset anything ,it still dosen't crank but turns over and I have compression and spark. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 200717 yr comment_230577 have you tried just unplugging the AFM (air flow meter)my 78 runs without, but runs like crap. do you have fuel? iirc, your car should kick the fuel pump on just with the movement of the flap. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 6, 200717 yr comment_230602 So, you mean it cranks but wont fire?Do these have cold start valves like the 280ZX does? I'd start with that first. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 200717 yr comment_230810 No Need to rest anything like newer cars just unclamp neg battery cable before doing an work and you will be fine. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 200717 yr comment_230817 I'd be curious as to how his mechanic came to that conclusion. He says he has 'compression and spark' but no mention of fuel. There are so many things that will create that scenario but I've seldom seen an AFM cause that problem. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 200717 yr comment_230831 got fuel pressure? Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 200717 yr comment_230832 There is a switch in the AFM for the fuel pump, and is determined by the position of the flapper.If you aren't hearing the fuel pump running when cranking the engine, this may be a place to check.Good luck. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 8, 200717 yr comment_230844 that's why i said maybe try unpluging it. that would open the fuel pump circuit, AND the car should run with it unplugged (i've done it before, but it runs like arse) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 9, 200717 yr comment_230847 that's why i said maybe try unpluging it. that would open the fuel pump circuit, AND the car should run with it unplugged (i've done it before, but it runs like arse)I've done a lot of research on this over the years. He has a 75 and you have a 78 as do I. The 78 S30 does not have fuel pump contacts in the AFM. It's the only year S30 that doesn't. It's setup like the later 79 and up S130, 810 and Maxima units (Pre ECCS). That's why the FSM cautions against using the 78 and later ECU or AFM in the 77 and earlier 280Zs. Unplugging the AFM on a 78 doesn't 'open the fuel pump circuit'. Compare these two scans. The only reason your car runs like 'arse' when you unplug the AFM is simply because you've unplugged the AFM. It really doesn't accomplish or help diagnose anything. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 9, 200717 yr comment_230877 sorry blake, i'm never good at explaining things. when i looked at my plug, the plug has 2 contact points that are empty (no wires leading to them) I know that mine doesn't use the switch, but from my understanding, when the car is running, the switch is opened because the flap has moved. by unpluging the afm from the car, that switch would become an open circuit. that's all i was saying. (or, the easy way would just be shove a screwdriver to push the flap and see if it kicks the pump on.) Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 9, 200717 yr comment_230899 I know that mine doesn't use the switch, but from my understanding, when the car is running, the switch is opened because the flap has moved.What switch? There is no 'switch' in a 78 and up AFM as evidenced by the fact that there are no wires on the plug, as you said, that would correspond to the contacts on the earlier cars. Maybe you'll understand it better with these charts. On a 78 the position of the flap in the AFM has no effect on the operation of the fuel pump. That may work on his car but it won't on yours or mine. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
December 9, 200717 yr comment_230919 oops, i should've said doesn't have it instead of doesn't use it. i implied it doesn't have the switch by saying it doesn't use the switch. Link to comment https://www.classiczcars.com/forums/topic/26426-when-replacing-mass-air-flow-meteranything-need-to-be-reset/#findComment-230919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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