White Face Gauge kit problem (series 1 speedo

[ktm]

MEZZZ, I did this conversion myself as well and the stock hands fit onto the new clocks with a little bit of modification. All I had to do was to SLIGHTLY widen the hole so that the hands would slide all the way onto the spindle. Too much and the hands would not rotate, too little and they tend to shift.

[Arne]

I've had good luck repairing the original clocks. Just sold one for a 240Z that I repaired over a year ago, still ticking as it left.

[Zs-ondabrain]

It was pretty basic. I took the emptied clock shell into Value Village (ie: GoodWill, dollar store or Volunteers of America) and asked if they had battery operated clocks. They had plenty for $1.99 each, so I bought 2 (some peoples garbage is just that, did'nt want to take a chance on just one)

I took the outer shell off the actual clock, removed the seconds, minutes, hour and alarm hand. I then removed the Paper clock face and used "Goof-Off" to remove the adhesive residue. I test fitted the body to the back of the Z's clock face and found that the lip that normaly acts as a "Stop" on the Z' clock was stopping the battery clock from getting close enough to the face to attach it with double sided tape (very thin, used for attaching with minimal space between the objects)

So I used the grinder to remove the small lip and then attached the clock to the face. I used the Battery clocks hands because they were a close match to the Z's hands and I knew they would fit already.

I aligned the adjuster knob (clock set knob) with the hole that the power wires originally went thru, when attaching the clock to the face. I then attaches very small red and black wires to the battery holder clips on the clock and ran those thru another small hole in the back of the shell.

I bought a single AA battery holder from radio shack and attach the wires together using very small telephone wire butt connectors (20 to 18 gauge)

I also found that the clocks time is easily adjusted using the stock "Push Knob" that already exists on the face of the original clock.

[Unkle]

To the original question : There is a semi correct way of doing this for an early series one , mine is done and you can see the 20 mph under the sticker ( it shows through faintly ) . I can try post pics to show you , but the original installer just put it on without trying to be officer friendly exact about it . I'm sure it's out 5 mph , but who cares ?

[WingZr0]

I just found this and now I'm getting tempted to do the series 1 gauges and if it's good enough, well.....maybe.

http://www.presslabel.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PSP-WLV8511&Category_Code=Waterproof&Store_Code=PL

I don't know, that looks kinda CODED to me (As in done, dead, finished,

longer in service, no longer among the living!).

Viny; stickers is not my first choice really but my First set I got from

Jazmaster was around 2 years ago when I fisrt discoverde Ebay :).

And it was made of High Quality type Card Stock with a smooth "like vinyle"

surface which was already precut to shape with pre punched stock mounting hole locations.

And no logos also unlike those other makes on Ebay with big

company names on them and untrimed edges.

The last set I got from him was 4 months or so ago but they were

vinyle but still made to the same exact standerds as before :rambo:

If I was you I'd opt for the card type if he can make 'em still.

That way you can take out your original gauge faces with out messing them

up with sticker residue if you like to return to stock again.

I also bought some a few of his red and blue light bulbs sets aswell

which are also great!

That guy who outbid you were'nt WATT180 by chance no? :nervous::tapemouth

~Z~

[MEZZZ]

Dave, thanks for the reply on the clock build. I have 3 here to play with, I guess I'll go around and see if I can match up a mechanism to it.

[Zs-ondabrain]

To the original question : There is a semi correct way of doing this for an early series one , mine is done and you can see the 20 mph under the sticker ( it shows through faintly ) . I can try post pics to show you , but the original installer just put it on without trying to be officer friendly exact about it . I'm sure it's out 5 mph , but who cares ?

Unfortunately, when it comes to the Z, I care. That's probably what gets me in so much trouble. But the fact that I want the speedo to be correct will help keep me OUT of trouble (with the law)

I've only had one ticket in the Z and that's because I was on a back road after getting the new KYB's and Eibachs? installed. I was ripping around a 25 MPH corner at about 60 MPH and he washeaded towards the same corner, coming from the other way. I had NO time to slow down.

Needless to say, He loved the car and only gave me a 10 over the limit ticket. $101 that I would have rather put in the gas tank and other areas of the car. I may build and put on some weird stuff on the car but it's pretty close to exact or precise.

Dave.

I wrote Jason but have yet to hear back from him and the car is still missing the speedo and it's in a box on the table. I need to put it back together but would much rather have the white face on it first.

I don't care about sticky residue as it'll never be back to black after I install the white faces on there.

[WingZr0]

Unfortunately, when it comes to the Z, I care. That's probably what gets me in so much trouble. But the fact that I want the speedo to be correct will help keep me OUT of trouble (with the law)

I've only had one ticket in the Z and that's because I was on a back road after getting the new KYB's and Eibachs? installed. I was ripping around a 25 MPH corner at about 60 MPH and he washeaded towards the same corner, coming from the other way. I had NO time to slow down.

Needless to say, He loved the car and only gave me a 10 over the limit ticket. $101 that I would have rather put in the gas tank and other areas of the car. I may build and put on some weird stuff on the car but it's pretty close to exact or precise.

Dave.

I wrote Jason but have yet to hear back from him and the car is still missing the speedo and it's in a box on the table. I need to put it back together but would much rather have the white face on it first.

I don't care about sticky residue as it'll never be back to black after I install the white faces on there.

Now thats a man who has his priorities straight folks

If jaz dont pan out BTW, you can always check with Speed Hut.

Only heard good things about them too.

[sblake01]

Speed Huts guage faces for a 240Z are 0-160 mph and, to me, have a less authentic appearance. Not that white guages look authentic anyway but at least the MSA version seems to approcah that look.

[Zs-ondabrain]

Call me impatient, but I got tired of waiting for MSA or Jason to at least acknowledge my emails. So I whipped out the OLD scanner and scanned both the 8/70 Z Speedo plate and the MSA white face speedo sticker.

25,000 megapixels later, I saved it to my portable memory stick and took it upstairs to the good computer. Fired up the Presto Image Folio and opened her up to make my own damn white face gauge.

So 8 hours of staring at the monitor and a slight case of Carpol tonno? I changed all the black to white and the white to black, erased the KPH crap that ya never read anyway, erased the names and numbers cause if I wanted all that, I would'nt be sitting in front of a monitor for 8 flippen hours.

So I finished it, resized it, and printed it on a piece of card stock I had sitting around for my business cards. Cut it out, cut out the mounting and odometer holes, brake and HI beam light holes and put it onto the Metal Speedo plate.

Perfect fit. Every thing is "On the Money" cause it essencially was exact to begin with, just needed a little help turning to white with black.

here are some shots of it in and out of the car. I used that real thin membrane 2 sided tape to mount it to the face. But I will be looking for a small pack of the adhesive backed 3 mil vinyl I posted a link about earlier in this thread.

Dave.

I can't upload the printable gauge face cause..... " Your file is currently 5100 x 5172." and it won't let me. I can email it but that's it.

The first picture is of the Speed hole and the SuperBriteLED.com LED's

[Zs-ondabrain]

Arne, check your Comcast mail. let me know if it's something you could Zip or post or whatever.

Dave.

[WingZr0]

Speed Huts guage faces for a 240Z are 0-160 mph and, to me, have a less authentic appearance. Not that white guages look authentic anyway but at least the MSA version seems to approcah that look.

If you send in a spare set of gauges as a sample, they can

copy it they say on the website.