moritz55 Posted March 17, 2008 Share #13 Posted March 17, 2008 I just completed the installation of the MSA Seat Belts. Driver and Passenger seat belts are identical. Only modification was that I had to flip the Top Y Clamp shoulder harness so it mount facing forward. It was easy, just pulled out the loose shoulder strap before mounting it and re-thread it such that when the Y clamp is facing forward, the Shoulder Harness that's clipped into the waist buckle runs ABOVE the retractable belt that feeds into the Top Y clamp. Note: I did have to cut a slit in my Carpet to allow it to fit slug around the retractable unit so that I can remove the carpet when cleaning the car, however it's not noticable. MSA notes that for 72-73 240z it's a drop in since all the holes are there - they are correct. Plenty of parts are left over. For 70-71 240z cars, one hole is required for the retractable unit - a plate is included to allow you to sandwich the screw holding the retractable unit with a bolt through the floor into the plate with a bolt/lockwasher on the underside of the car. Hope this helps and here's the MSA Link: http://www.thezstore.com/page/TZS/PROD/40-7490 Description of the Photos: Photos 000 & 001 are of the completed Installation. Seat covers are MSA's washable Black covers. Photo 002 is a view of the retractable unit base and the shoulder harness clamp. The carpet is slit under the retractable unit to cover the mounting hardware. Photo 003 is a view of the Y Clamp attached to the roof. It must face forward so the shoulder strap can be pulled and retract easily. Photo 004 is a view with my Carpet removed. I have old carpet down with sound insulation under it, so I did cut a hole to allow the 3" bracket to be attched to the existing hole in the floorboard. Photo 005 is a view of the lapbelt attachment. I used the L bracket that came with the MSA kit so it cleanly fits and is upright nicely against the transmission housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xray Posted March 17, 2008 Share #14 Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks for the install and pics! Looks good, but I'm a little bummed about not having a Z emblem on them...However, if in an accident I would be even more bummed if/when my 30+ year old belts gave way and allowed me to get shish kabob'd on my steering column.Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moritz55 Posted March 17, 2008 Share #15 Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks Xray for pointing this out. They actually have a "Z" emblem for the buckle. I have not placed them on yet. It's cold outside, I'll wait till warm weather. If you look at the MSA link you'll see the "Z" logo. It's looks very authentic.Many thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a7dz Posted March 18, 2008 Share #16 Posted March 18, 2008 The early 70 Z cars did not have the Z emblem on the satin black buckles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunniwj Posted March 18, 2008 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2008 I've been thinking about those belts. Thanks for the pics. Get rid of the seatcovers and do your seats the way they were meant, they will thank you for it. Their to good looking to be covered like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moritz55 Posted March 18, 2008 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2008 Thanks for the comments..."a7dz" - my 1973 240z stock side buckles had the "Z" logos on them. They must have changed this when they came out with Shoulder Harnesses. It's shaped identical to the "Z" logo MSA has with these Retro Belts/Shoulder Harness."cunniwj" thanks for the suggestion on the seats and covers. In my case the seats are stock and am fortunate becuase they are in oustanding shape. I did remove them and repair the underside webbing to increase the strength. I also have the original side black plastic covers on the outboard sides where the seat back release lever is. So in my case I bought these seat covers from MSA to protect the seats from normal wear as I drive it regularly and wanted something that blended and looked half way decent.Anyway , many thanks again ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunniwj Posted March 18, 2008 Share #19 Posted March 18, 2008 Moritz55, I didn't mean that in a negative way. When I got my first 240 in the 70's those seats were the "koolist" around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moritz55 Posted March 19, 2008 Share #20 Posted March 19, 2008 "cunniwj" .. Thanks .. I agree totally and did not take it as a negative. These seats were clearly years ahead of their time, I just wanted to preserve them with something stylish and looks half way decent.Many thanks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNIXZGO Posted March 20, 2008 Share #21 Posted March 20, 2008 I'm going to be undertaking this task in the next week or so! Hope mine comes out as yours did well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full house Posted March 20, 2008 Share #22 Posted March 20, 2008 are you telling that we should stay away to that site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyJoe Posted May 26, 2008 Share #23 Posted May 26, 2008 Why can't the retractor just mount to the same hole as the outside floor end of the belt? The original shoulder belt connects there - it seems you should be able to make both attachments there and not lose any safety and avoid having to drill.Never mind - I've been reading some more threads and this has been covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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