Weights

[NickF]

Have seen some weights quoted for "Fairlady"240z at 995 Kg,240z at 985Kg(might have been the other way round) were these home market cars? and 240z at 1040Kg

Any thoughts on how these production ? cars shed so much weight?

Nick

[dohc]

I'd also like to add to this.

How much more does a 260z 2+2 with the 5spd weigh?

Thanks,

R.

[Alfadog]

I saw in a book 920kg :-|

Who knows teh correct weight !?

[Rogersz]

nothing listed in the aussie nissan w/shop manual all i could find was MODERN MOTOR magazine SEPT 74 with a 2+2 auto with kerb weight 1217 kg {2677lbs} and weight as tested 1350kg {2977 lbs }.

[Zedrally]

Mean't to look in the manual last night...forgot.

Zhome quotes 2+2 curb weight as 2855lb a tad short of 1300kg. Approx 350kg [770lb or a whopping 37% increase in weight] more than a 240.

Not sure what exactly curb weight is?

Full fuel, 2 pax etc??????

[dohc]

Yeah, I'd believe 1200kg, that what it felt like when I had to push it

As for curb weight Zedrally that means that it would have all the fluids to the correct level as deemed by the factory. So, full radiator, full sump, half a tank of fuel (I think), spare tyre etc.... No driver though

Thanks for the responses though, It has helped a bit....

R.

[HS30-H]

Here's some data from the Japanese side at the October 1971 launch of the HS30 series cars there:

*FAIRLADY Z ( S30S ) - 975kg dry ( auto 1,000kg ) / 1,085 kerb ( auto 1,110kg )

*FAIRLADY Z-L ( S30 ) - 995kg dry ( auto 1,020kg ) / 1,105kg kerb ( auto 1,130kg )

*FAIRLADY 240Z ( HS30-S ) - 985kg dry ( auto 1,010kg ) / 1,095kg kerb ( auto 1,120kg )

*FAIRLADY 240Z-L ( HS30 ) - 1,005kg dry ( auto 1,030kg ) / 1,115kg kerb ( auto 1,140kg )

*FAIRLADY 240ZG ( HS30-H ) - 1,010kg dry ( auto 1,035kg ) / 1,120kg kerb ( auto 1,145kg )

*FAIRLADY Z432 ( PS30 ) - 1,040kg dry ( no auto ) / 1,150kg kerb ( no auto ).

You have to be careful about these kinds of figures quoted in road tests and books, as they are notoriously inaccurate and quite often don't pertain to the particular model / spec. in question.

Sorry I don't have any info. to hand on the HLS30 models, but I would imagine that they are not too different from the HS30 spec.

I don't have any data to hand on the 2+2 to either, and it would take some digging to get the brochure out of the pile here - sorry.

Alan T.

[Alfadog]

*FAIRLADY 240Z ( HS30-S ) - 985kg dry ( auto 1,010kg ) / 1,095kg kerb ( auto 1,120kg )

*FAIRLADY 240Z-L ( HS30 ) - 1,005kg dry ( auto 1,030kg ) / 1,115kg kerb ( auto 1,140kg )

What's with this? Are you saying all Australian cars are 240Z-L's??

What is the difference?

[Zedrally]

Arrrrrr....Wha the...

*FAIRLADY Z ( S30S )

*FAIRLADY Z-L ( S30 )

*FAIRLADY 240Z ( HS30-S )

*FAIRLADY 240Z-L ( HS30 )

*FAIRLADY 240ZG ( HS30-H )

*FAIRLADY Z432 ( PS30 )

Alan T.

Alan I did a quick search of your posts, so if I missed this basic answer, here's the question from a simple person.

What do all of these numbers mean?

Wasn't there only a Domestic RHD &RHD G nose and LHD 240, obviously not?

Putting the tea on....

[HS30-H]

At the launch of the S30-series Fairlady Z range in Japan ( October 1969 ) the following models were released to the general public;

*FAIRLADY Z ( "S30-S" ) - The "no frills" base car, with no hubcaps, no rubber trim on the bumpers, plastic / rubber mats instead of carpets and lots of other little cost-cutting measures. These cars had the L20 2-litre six and four-speed trans. - but with a good list of options that would upgrade the spec. to the owners choice ( including a five-speed box option ).

*FAIRLADY Z-L ( "S30" ) - The 'luxury' version, with all the bells and whistles ( wow - carpet and hubcaps! ) and the five-speed as standard. Still with the L20 engine.

*FAIRLADY Z432 ( "PS30" ) - The hot one, with the S20 twin cam engine ( same as the previous year's Skyline GT-R was released with ) derived from the Prince GR8 race engine. Hundreds of differences to the "normal" S30 cars - too many to list.

*FAIRLADY Z432-R ( "PS30-SB" ) - The even hotter one, still with the same S20 engine but with a whole host of other features and differences to the bodyshell intended to homologate specifications for the race cars. Even more differences, and definitely too many to list here.

Then from October 1971, the following additions to the range:

*FAIRLADY 240Z ( "HS30-S" ) - Pretty much the same as the Fairlady Z ( "S30-S" ) above, but now with the option of the L24 engine - basically a bore and stroke job. Took the car into a much higher and more expensive taxation bracket..............

*FAIRLADY 240Z-L ( "HS30" ) - As per the "S30", but again with the L24 engine. These cars were probably closest in spec. to the UK and Australian market RHD "240Z" models, but with quite a few nice Factory options that other markets did not necessarily get.

*FAIRLADY 240ZG ( "HS30-H" ) The improved-aerodynamics Homologation special sold to the general public allowed the Factory to use the base parts ( and in fact even more radical ) kit for Group 4 races in Japan. This version was based on the "HS30" and the main differences were the extended nose and "Overfenders".

So, you can see that the story of the Japanese-market cars was quite complicated and that they got the L24-engined cars in late 1971. They had a pretty good choice from October 1969 though.....

I thought that the weight data ( as quoted by the factory ) might be interesting to some people, as it covers quite a few models, and it can be seen that the "no frills" base-model car was the lightest, even compared to the PS30-SB "lightweight" Z432-R. Naturally, the 432-R had quite a few parts making it heavier ( such as that 100 Litre fuel tank ) - so weight is a matter of "swings and roundabouts".

This kind of info. is not widely available - so it seems that many people do not realise what a diverse range the S30-series Z was. That's a pity.

Alan T.

[Alfadog]

Give me your knowledge

[dohc]

Ya gonna have to fight me for it Alpha:classic: